ATF IOI - And Still Patiently Waiting.....

[Science]

New Thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :p :)

[Trueblue943]

OK I give what is IOI?

[1811rBust]

OK I give what is IOI?

Industry Operations Investigator.

[Thirdtime]

I've been quietly reading this thread, and I want to congratulate everyone who has gotten the call, and a wish everyone still waiting for the call a good thought.

Question ?

Has anyone who got the call received the hard copy letter in the mail or fedex outlining their salaries and duty station addresses and points of contact...

AND, IF YOU DID...

Can you post what your start date is; may 16 or May 31.


Thanks...

Third

[christienyca]

I've been quietly reading this thread, and I want to congratulate everyone who has gotten the call, and a wish everyone still waiting for the call a good thought.

Question ?

Has anyone who got the call received the hard copy letter in the mail or fedex outlining their salaries and duty station addresses and points of contact...

AND, IF YOU DID...

Can you post what your start date is; may 16 or May 31.


Thanks...

Third

I have not received a call yet, but I am just wondering where you are in the process? Did you receive a call? Do you have any additional info about the freeze or an august class?

[Anchor]

I don't think there will a delay in the hiring process things are moving to fast and what was said before about the ATF not hiring for such a long time is true. They are very short on IOI's.

We will all get the call! :)

[Thirdtime]

I have not received a call yet, but I am just wondering where you are in the process? Did you receive a call? Do you have any additional info about the freeze or an august class?


Christienyca...

Yes, I got a very cheerful call, but i'm sorry that I have no further info since things got quiet after the phone call. I believe the personnel office is working overtime to calculate and process salaries, and get written confirmations out to everyone.

Godspeed to you,

Third..

[christienyca]

Christienyca...

Yes, I got a very cheerful call, but i'm sorry that I have no further info since things got quiet after the phone call. I believe the personnel office is working overtime to calculate and process salaries, and get written confirmations out to everyone.

Godspeed to you,

Third..

Congrats! When did you get the call? What location did you get? Was it your first choice?

[Thirdtime]

Christie...

Got the call on 04/12, about the same time as other posters...got my third choice in PA.

Third...

[Anchor]

Christie...

Got the call on 04/12, about the same time as other posters...got my third choice in PA.

Third...

When are you reporting to you FO? Or do you not know yet.

[Thirdtime]

Anchor,

My report date is 05/31/05.

[Anchor]

Anchor,

My report date is 05/31/05.

Thanks!

Congrats! and Good Luck at FLETC :D

[Science]

I spoke to someone in the ATF who said there might be a temporary slow down on new hires. It wasn't official but a rumor and not to be concerned b/c they believe it's only temporary and people should be receiving calls again. This person also said the June and August class is still on. :)

[Anchor]

I spoke to someone in the ATF who said there might be a temporary slow down on new hires. It wasn't official but a rumor and not to be concerned b/c they believe it's only temporary and people should be receiving calls again. This person also said the June and August class is still on. :)

Hey, thanks for getting us all back in the right mind set! Now if they would just call :mad:
I believe that my Background is done. Everyone that I put on my SF was talked to, I am just not sure if he went to my Univ yet. I am thinking that he will send it in at the end of this week or next week!

I have question to anyone that can answer it, did any of you have people on your SF that were out of state from you? And did a BI talk to them. Most of my friends that know me live all over the nation.
Thanks

[krellum]

This is the second time today that someone has posted the same thing in two threads. This time, it was by someone with enough time/posts on the board to know better. I suggest that this person take a second and read the board rules, which he apparently has never bothered to do in the almost-one year he's been a member here (sad).

Guys, just as ya'll get tired of hearing about the board rules, we get tired of harping on the subject - tired of moving posts left in the wrong threads, tired of breaking up arguments, and tired of deleting peoples names and phone numbers from threads, people opening threads that are a month old, just to hijck them in another direction (that one kinda stumped me - ??). And that was all just today. Read the rules. Read them now. There's a time coming when we just chuck it all and start giving people 2 weeks off here, a month off there - for silly violations that should only be committed by board newbies - just because they didn't bother to abide by the conditions that have been set here.

If you want to talk about your application "status" with an agency, I suggest keeping that conversation limited to one thread at a time, not only to keep the board less confusing and keep people from doing these stupid things, but also so that any of ya'll who ARE in that agency's process can find all the pertinent info you need in one spot.

k

[3turner]

Finally, if you haven't done the Google search for "ATF Industry Operations Inspectors" and read the Congressional testimony, try it. I inferred from the report that IOIs were in very short supply. Can't confirm it; it's just my opinion.

Okay Simon, in the closed thread you had mentioned the congressional testimony....but I can't find it :o . Could you please provide a link 'cause I would like to read that report. I have tried finding it for about an hour now. Thanks

[Simon]

3T,

Sent you a PM w/ the link.

S-

[Thirdtime]

Has anyone who got the call, and is currently a fed, advise if their personnel office was contacted yet. The personnel contact is the prelude to the written letter...

Third...

[1172]

Hey, thanks for getting us all back in the right mind set! Now if they would just call :mad:
I believe that my Background is done. Everyone that I put on my SF was talked to, I am just not sure if he went to my Univ yet. I am thinking that he will send it in at the end of this week or next week!

I have question to anyone that can answer it, did any of you have people on your SF that were out of state from you? And did a BI talk to them. Most of my friends that know me live all over the nation.
Thanks
I listed lots of out of staters on my bi, I don't think any were contacted. The farthest they seem to have gone for the bi is to my hometown about 2 hours away (in state).

[1172]

Christie...

Got the call on 04/12, about the same time as other posters...got my third choice in PA.

Third...
What were your first two choices?

[Thirdtime]

What were your first two choices?


1172,

All of my top five choices were in one state, PA, then I branched out to the mid west.

If you're in the process, godspeed.

Third...

[TX22]

Any new info guys? This thread has been pretty quiet lately. The dreaded wait continues.

[ltdbcp01]

My BI was completed 2 weeks ago Thursday. I have been jumping every time the phone rings. This has been the most miserable 2-weeks of my life so far.

[christienyca]

Hello,

Today I called the ATF Recruitment Center to find out where I am in the process. I was told that my background has cleared and my paperwork is waiting to go to the selection committee. The lady I spoke to confirmed that there will actually be an august class. I am praying that I will make it into the August class! Does anyone else have any new info?

Good Luck to All

Christie

[Simon]

Nothing new on this end. I'm finding some comfort in that I'm not the only one whose phone isn't ringing. I guess there might have been some truth to the rumor of a hiring slow down. The August class confirmation is re-assuring. That would work best for me. In any case, I'll continue to wait...and wait...and wait...

[TX22]

Hello,

Today I called the ATF Recruitment Center to find out where I am in the process. I was told that my background has cleared and my paperwork is waiting to go to the selection committee. The lady I spoke to confirmed that there will actually be an august class. I am praying that I will make it into the August class! Does anyone else have any new info?

Good Luck to All

Christie

Well at least you know your background has cleared. My investigators have turned in their paperwork but it has not been reviewed yet. The person on the phone could not give me a timeline. Do you happen to know when your field investigators finished your background? My process started out really fast now it seems I've hit a bump in the road. ;)

[1172]

My thoughts are that the next job offer calls will come in June. If the next class is Aughust, it's probably in the beginning of it as the June class is June 8, and the course only runs 7 or 8 weeks. If they want us to see the field for 2-4 weeks before heading down to FLETC, that would mean to give the usual 2 weeks notice, the earliest calls would be in late june. That's just next month, right? It'll get here right quick. I've got my thumb permanently on the "talk" button. Anyone hear anything else?

[christienyca]

Well at least you know your background has cleared. My investigators have turned in their paperwork but it has not been reviewed yet. The person on the phone could not give me a timeline. Do you happen to know when your field investigators finished your background? My process started out really fast now it seems I've hit a bump in the road. ;)

The field investigator finished my background in mid-March and sent his report to DC. That lead me to believe that I was going to make the June class, but I never received the call. On April 15 I called DC and was told my background had not cleared yet. It was not until today that I found out that my background is complete and waiting to be reviewed by the selection committee. So I would not worry to much about a the bumps in the road.

I am not expecting to hear anything from DC until the middle of June. I am guessing that is around the time they will start filling the august class. I hope we all make into the August class!

Good Luck!

[smitten25]

Hey guys,

I applied for Industry oper. invest. in october, my background was completed on the 6th of May, so I guess Im in the waiting game with you guys as well. What locations did you guys put in for??
:)

[TX22]

Hey guys,

I applied for Industry oper. invest. in october, my background was completed on the 6th of May, so I guess Im in the waiting game with you guys as well. What locations did you guys put in for??
:)


You have about the same time-line as me. I selected 5 cities in Texas with Houston being my number 1 choice.

[smitten25]

I put in for West Palm beach fl, Miami and Atlanta..I only chose three choices cause I dont really want to move anywhere else..Im in NJ, so those places are far away anyway..Does anyone have any information on the locations they are hiring for..I know that NY/NJ area they are not hiring at all!!

[christienyca]

You have about the same time-line as me. I selected 5 cities in Texas with Houston being my number 1 choice.

Hi guys,

I have excellent news!!!!!!!!!!!!! I received the call today! And believe it or not it is for the June class!

[smitten25]

what location are you going to be at christinyea?

[3turner]

Hi guys,

I have excellent news!!!!!!!!!!!!! I received the call today! And believe it or not it is for the June class!

Congrats Christienyca!! Guess I'll see you at FLETC. By the way...what city did you get? 1st Choice?

[ltdbcp01]

Congrats Christienyca! I'm still waiting :o Looks like there may still be some hope for the June class. I know that my number 1 choice has still not been filled yet.

[christienyca]

Congrats Christienyca!! Guess I'll see you at FLETC. By the way...what city did you get? 1st Choice?

I will be working in Wilkes-Barre, PA. I am so excited because homes are reasonable prices in this area! To top it off I will only have to move about three hours away from where I current live. I am soooooo happy!!!!! I am just waiting to see if I can change my start date, because I am getting married May 29th. So it will be really hard to start on May 31st. I should find out sooo. But either way I will still be happy!!!!!!! Good Luck...

Did any of you receive anything in writing yet?

[smitten25]

christienyca was that one of your choices?? Congrats to you, its nice out there. Atleast you will get more bang for you buck!!

[Anchor]

Hi guys,

I have excellent news!!!!!!!!!!!!! I received the call today! And believe it or not it is for the June class!


Congrats!

I hope it all works out and you have a wonderful Wedding day!

[Anchor]

I put in for West Palm beach fl, Miami and Atlanta..I only chose three choices cause I dont really want to move anywhere else..Im in NJ, so those places are far away anyway..Does anyone have any information on the locations they are hiring for..I know that NY/NJ area they are not hiring at all!!

I have the same timeline as you. My BI was also finished on May 6th. Mybe we are both on the same track for the August class! I am also looking to stay in the Southeast. I don't have much info as the what locations are hiring.

Good luck

[christienyca]

Congrats!

I hope it all works out and you have a wonderful Wedding day!

Thanks!

Good Luck to you!

[1172]

Christienyca,

First off, congratulations. It must feel great to have that weight of wondering lifted. Now you can focus entirely on the pre wedding jitters, and from all I've been told that's both exciting and quite time consuming in itself.

Second, did you post your timeline anywhere? When did you interview?

[christienyca]

Christienyca,

First off, congratulations. It must feel great to have that weight of wondering lifted. Now you can focus entirely on the pre wedding jitters, and from all I've been told that's both exciting and quite time consuming in itself.

Second, did you post your timeline anywhere? When did you interview?

Applied in November 2004
GS 9 Letter December 2004
Interviewed February 1, 2005
Received background forms Feb 11, 2005
Returned forms February 14, 2005
Interviewed by Background investigator March 11, 2005
Background investigation sent to DC March 18, 2005
Background cleared May 6, 2005
***********ATF offer May 9, 2005!!!!!!!!!!!!***********

[Science]

Rumor has it that the June class is FILLED. Who knows when they will start calling for the August class, but I've been told they are moving quickly........

Anyone hear anything else??? :p

[TX22]

Where did you hear that rumor from?

[1172]

What's the number everyone's been calling to see where they are in the process? Could someone pm it to me?

[Anchor]

What's the number everyone's been calling to see where they are in the process? Could someone pm it to me?

I think it is the # on the front page of the background packet that was sent to you. The # to call if you have any questions. I had to call it once about my finger prints and the lady told me that there is only 4 or 5 ladies that work in that office so if they don't answer someone will call you back if you leave a message.

[christienyca]

Rumor has it that the June class is FILLED. Who knows when they will start calling for the August class, but I've been told they are moving quickly........

Anyone hear anything else??? :p

I can tell you that the August class is definately on, because I am in it!!!! My report date is August 8th. I was told that they are going to start calling for the August class in the middle of June.

[1172]

I think it is the # on the front page of the background packet that was sent to you. The # to call if you have any questions. I had to call it once about my finger prints and the lady told me that there is only 4 or 5 ladies that work in that office so if they don't answer someone will call you back if you leave a message.


I think I've still got that, thanks!

[Simon]

I can tell you that the August class is definately on, because I am in it!!!! My report date is August 8th. I was told that they are going to start calling for the August class in the middle of June.

I thought you were in the June class. Does this mean they moved your start date due to your wedding plans? I'm hoping for an August class date if the offer ever comes, so hearing it's on is great news.

S-

[Science]

Christienyca,

I thought you initially said you were in the June class and got the call on 5/9/05???? Then you said you are in the August class and they would be calling mid-June? Which class are you really in. I'm so confused. And if you're in the August class, how did you find out if they aren't calling until mid-June????

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for my info about the June class being filled as of 5/10/05. It was a rumor amongst two IOI sups told to me yesterday.

[christienyca]

Christienyca,

I thought you initially said you were in the June class and got the call on 5/9/05???? Then you said you are in the August class and they would be calling mid-June? Which class are you really in. I'm so confused. And if you're in the August class, how did you find out if they aren't calling until mid-June????

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for my info about the June class being filled as of 5/10/05. It was a rumor amongst two IOI sups told to me yesterday.

On 5/9 I was offered the position with a start date of 5/31, which put me in the June class. I accepted the position and mentioned that I am getting married on May 29. I was told that I could probably be placed in the August class if I preferred. Yesterday, 5/10, I was told that they approved me for a new start date, Aug 8, which will put me in the August class.

The reason I know that they will be calling in mid-June is because I was told that I will receive written conformation of the offer in mid-June when they start to fill the august class.

[Recon 5764]

On 5/9 I was offered the position with a start date of 5/31, which put me in the June class. I accepted the position and mentioned that I am getting married on May 29. I was told that I could probably be placed in the August class if I preferred. Yesterday, 5/10, I was told that they approved me for a new start date, Aug 8, which will put me in the August class.

The reason I know that they will be calling in mid-June is because I was told that I will receive written conformation of the offer in mid-June when they start to fill the august class.


Congratulations. sorry this didn't come sooner, but I was lost. They moved us out of FED ?'s and I was worried that no one was hearing anything.

[Simon]

The reason I know that they will be calling in mid-June is because I was told that I will receive written conformation of the offer in mid-June when they start to fill the august class.

That's great that they were so willing to work with you. It's also good news for all of us still waiting b/c this is definite confirmation of the August class! Now if only my phone would ring . . .

Good luck and congrats on the wedding. Hope to meet you at FLETC!

S-

[Science]

Thanks for the clarification. As you see, I'm a little slow.

And congrats on making the August class..............

Simon,

Right there with you waiting for the phone to ring....


:o :o :o :o

[Thirdtime]

Can anyone reporting on 05/31 post if and when they received the written letter.

Third...


P.S. Simon, thanks for re-directing me......

[1172]

I called 'em yesterday. They said I've "gained access", meaning my bi is done. The middle of June it is then.
By the by, has anyone else heard these fantastic things about the job?
1) Three day weekend every other weekend due to an alternate work schedule, 2) Three hours a week they'll pay us to work out instead of being in the office,
3) They're shifting more towards working out of the house than out of the office.

This truely is the job of jobs. I've got that info on good authority too, from my friend that got hired by the Pittsburgh office about 6 months ago. He says he believes it's all nationwide perks, not just relegated to his office.
Anyone else heard these things?

[ltdbcp01]

I have a friend who is a IOI in the local office here (the same one i'm hoping for) and she says that they have been on this alternate schedule since the first of the year. She rarely goes to the office except to submit finished reports.

[TX22]

I called 'em yesterday. They said I've "gained access", meaning my bi is done. The middle of June it is then.
By the by, has anyone else heard these fantastic things about the job?
1) Three day weekend every other weekend due to an alternate work schedule, 2) Three hours a week they'll pay us to work out instead of being in the office,
3) They're shifting more towards working out of the house than out of the office.

This truely is the job of jobs. I've got that info on good authority too, from my friend that got hired by the Pittsburgh office about 6 months ago. He says he believes it's all nationwide perks, not just relegated to his office.
Anyone else heard these things?

1172, what's your timeline? I'm trying to figure out when my BI might be done. I don't want to call too many times.

[ltdbcp01]

I called the number this morning and was advised that my paperwork should clear Personnel Security this week (tomorrow) and then be sent to the recruiting center to be finalized next week. That could take up to two to three weeks there. That puts things in line for the August class if they start calling around the middle of June. ;)

Time Line:
Oct: Applied for GS-9
Dec 10: recieved letter of qualification
Feb 1: Met with Interviewer
March 11: recieved BI packet
March 14: mailed BI packet
March 28: recieved additional paperwork for clarification on SF-86
April 7: mailed paperwork back
April 21: met with BI
May 2: BI completed background and sent back to Washington

[1172]

1172, what's your timeline? I'm trying to figure out when my BI might be done. I don't want to call too many times.


roughly my time line is:
electronic submission & original packet sent in mid October
got the letter saying I was qualified in late November
Interviewed on Feb 4
got bi packet on Feb 11
got it back quick
met w/ bi investigator in mid-late march
sitting on my can sice then

Hope this helps

[Anchor]

My timeline is just about the same as all of you give or take a day. I moved in the middle of the process and it did not slow down the process at all. I feel very good about the up coming August class and I am sure that most if not all of us will be in it. I can't wait to meet all of you!

Good luck!

Keep posting all the good info, everyday I learn more and more about this job from all of you! Thanks!

[Recon 5764]

I have a friend who is a IOI in the local office here (the same one i'm hoping for) and she says that they have been on this alternate schedule since the first of the year. She rarely goes to the office except to submit finished reports.


Can you see if your friend that is an IOI can give us a heads up about what to expect at FLETC? :o

This would be a big help to the ones that are fixing to go.

Thanks.

[ltdbcp01]

I asked her when I first applied for the position and she stated that it is mostly all class room (lecture) type stuff with some occassional practical exercises. There is no physical agility requirements since this is a non-sworn position. They have reduced the class to 9-weeks from the original 10 that she stated she went to a few years ago. When she went through, they were still called ATF Inspectors.

[1172]

Does anyone know if the job comes with grooming standards?

[Anchor]

Does anyone know if the job comes with grooming standards?


I have no info on grooming standards, anyone here anything yet? This waiting game is killing me :mad:

[ATF SAC]

Grooming standards as a question always worry me. I can tell you that a number of years ago an inspector was fired for refusing to wear a tie for their official photograph and that it was sustained. Work enviroment may vary depending on the assignment from suit to professional business casual and that IOI's like agent draw on an allotment of utility type clothing and gear suitable for other kinds of assignments (no point in wearing a suit to inspect explosive storage facilities or do inventory at a firearms dealership.) Figure conservative haircuts and facial hair as a norm. IOI's are government representatives usually interacting with business types.

[Thirdtime]

ATF SAC,

I would really be interested in hearing your opinion of the diversity of the IOI position...I've heard that no two days are alike, and I read between the lines from your last post today that different gear may equate to varying and interesting assignments....could you elaborate...

Third...

[ATF SAC]

Perhaps a bit less diverse than back in my day when it was fully ATFE on both the criminal and regulatory side; but plenty. The diversity of work cuts three ways at least. Partly it will change depending on where in the legal industry you are working. One thing to be at the corporate level at Ensign Bickford, another inspecting magazines of explosives for compliance with requirements at a local dealer. One thing to be schmoozing with execs over at Glock USA and another to be verifying inventory at some shady dealership, still another to be involved with a seminar for small firearms dealers throughout a region.

Then there is the diversity of mission. Is this a revenue matter relating to taxes owed? Is it a compliance issue relating whether a license will be issued or continued? Is this an administrative issue or a request for assistance in a criminal matter?

Last is the diversity of industry. Could start the day with an issue relating to explosives and finish with one related to firearms.

Mix them up and you may go from the boardroom to a field full of bunkers, from a seminar in a hotel room to a warehouse, from checking records and databases in the office to physically checking and documenting firearms in inventory at the scene of a robbery homicide involving a gun shop, with maybe a stop after lunch to testify at an administrative hearing. Like the agents, IOI's generally have some clothes changes in the trunk of the car.

[Recon 5764]

I asked her when I first applied for the position and she stated that it is mostly all class room (lecture) type stuff with some occassional practical exercises. There is no physical agility requirements since this is a non-sworn position. They have reduced the class to 9-weeks from the original 10 that she stated she went to a few years ago. When she went through, they were still called ATF Inspectors.


IOIBT (industry operations investigator basic training) only last 7 1/2 weeks now. I haven't been yet but I understand it is packed with information. I will find out in June and July.
:eek:

[ltdbcp01]

That's great to know. When I was interviewed in February my interviewer was under the impression it was 9 weeks. Keep us posted if you can after you get there so we that are still in limbo will kinda know what to expect when we get the call. ;) ;)

[Simon]

Nothing new to report. However, since "the calls" seem to have diminished, I thought I'd share some positive news, even if it's already been covered.

I called DC earlier this week just to confirm they have everything they need from me (Okay, who am I kidding, I wanted INFO!) and was told they're still planning to begin calling for the August class in the middle of June. The woman I spoke with said my BI had cleared, so they'll only need to do an update over the phone prior to any subsequent offer for the August class.

I know this isn't late breaking news, but at least it gives us something to keep our spirits up as we wait for tidbits of info from Recon and everyone else in the June class. On a personal note, I've finally graduated, so now I can spend more time reading threads and waiting for the phone to ring. Lucky me!

S-

[lukeaustin]

I am a current ATF IOI and can probably answer some of your questions. The list just came to our office today and we are getting 4 new people for the June FLETC class. The IOI course at FLETC is continually improving thanks to the efforts of Mr. K down at FLETC. When you get to your new office, before FLETC, you could study someone's manuals that went down there before you but there is really no reason to do so. The goal of FLETC is not to flunk you out but to make sure that you have a decent understanding of the industries and regulations you will be working in. I thought FLETC was very easy but I also knew a lot about firearms and that industry. As far as grooming standards go, I think ATF SAC hit the nail on the head when he said you are a government representative. Some offices, including mine, have strict guidelines about your clothing out in the field (i.e. Royal Robbins pants and polo shirts). One thing I will warn all of you taking this job is that if you do want to eventually become an agent (as many do and have did), do not come into the office and begin proclaiming this fact. You need to take the time to learn this job before you think about switching. The one thing I can tell you about this job is that ATF IOI's are handled differently in every office. I average 2-3 nights in a hotel per week and my office only covers two states. Other people that I know of in different districts have not spent the night in a hotel since their hire date. Any other questions you can PM me.

[Thirdtime]

Quick question to anyone reporting at the end of the month...

The official notification/reporting letters, or least mine, lists everything except a reporting time. Should it be assumed that it's a 9:00 am reporting time to the field office on the first day....

[lukeaustin]

ThirdTime,
You will receive a call from your Area Supervisor prior to your first day telling you what time to show up at the office. Your first day you will probably wear a suit and tie as you will be getting sworn in by the SAC. My first day started at 8 AM.

[ltdbcp01]

This board has been really quiet. Still waiting! ;) ;)

[TX22]

This board has been really quiet. Still waiting! ;) ;)


Nothing new over here..........Still waiting!!!!! ;)

[christienyca]

Nothing new over here..........Still waiting!!!!! ;)

I would not worry about it! They are probably finishing up with the June class this week. I was told I should be receiving my letter by the end of next week. I am so excited I am getting married in 5 days and my soon to be husband and I found a house in PA where I will be working!!!! Good luck to all....

[Anchor]

No news for me too ;)

[Drew]

I found out in late April that my background investigation was just completed. (It began in early Dec 04) They were waiting to hear back from the IRS. Of course I waited until the last day to file my taxes because I owed a ton this year. That put me out of contention for the June class. Very frustrating since I began this Process in June of last year. I did talk to a lady in Washington and she said there is an Aug. class. I expect to hear from them in the last two weeks of June. It will be very exciting to put a face with the name when we finally get to meet in Aug.
Keep the Faith :)

[1172]

Anyone know what day in August (that the class starts)?

[Anchor]

Anyone know what day in August (that the class starts)?

I think someone posted Aug 8th for a report date to your field office and Aug 22nd for a FLETC report date.

[1172]

I think someone posted Aug 8th for a report date to your field office and Aug 22nd for a FLETC report date.
That's good info, thanks

[TX22]

So besides me, who else is waiting to get the call? What locations do each of you want? This waiting is worse than watching water wating for it to boil!!!!!!!! ;)

[ATF SAC]

Gee, gang. What happened to patiently?

[Anchor]

So besides me, who else is waiting to get the call? What locations do each of you want? This waiting is worse than watching water wating for it to boil!!!!!!!! ;)


Waiting for the call! I hope just about two more weeks :)

[TX22]

Gee, gang. What happened to patiently?

I know, I know. I should be used to this since I've gone through it before with the gov't. Hired in under one year (possibly) is lightning quick for the gov't.

[1172]

I'm expecting the call. If it's not in the next round I'd be surprised. I interviewed on the 4th of Feb 05. That seems like ages ago.

[ltdbcp01]

Still PATIENTLY waiting!!!!!!!! ;) ;)

[Simon]

I'm still waiting too. "Patiently" hopped the first train out of town when the calander struck June 1st. :D

Now that I'm done with school, I'm playing "Mr. Mom" and working my P/T job until one of my "G" job pursuits pans out. After nearly 7 years in the military, one would think I'd be used to this "hurry up and wait" mentality. Guess not. ;) ;)

[MWATHRT]

I tried asking this question once (PM) and never got an answer - maybe one of you nice people can help:

I tried doing a search, but to no avail.

For those who interviewed for the IOI position THIS year (Jan-Mar), have you received anything more? If so, how long after the interview did it take? What exactly was the next step?

I'm wondering if this is for a different group who interviewed for the position, than the group I'm in - I have yet to hear ANYTHING on this position - and I interviewed in Jan/Feb this year.

If I'm not being considered anymore, I would have thought I would have received a thin letter by now????

Can anyone lend me some information please??

THanks!

[TX22]

I would call ATF recruiting if I were you. I have called them a few times during the hiring process and they have been very helpful. This is the gov't you never know what may have happened. They could have lost your file. I would think that they would let you know if you didn't pass the interview. Everyone who I have spoken to on this forum who interviewed back in Jan and Feb are already through the whole process and are just waiting for a call. You can find the recruiting number on the ATF website (www.atf.gov) under the JOBS tab. Hope this helps.

[1172]

I tried asking this question once (PM) and never got an answer - maybe one of you nice people can help:

I tried doing a search, but to no avail.

For those who interviewed for the IOI position THIS year (Jan-Mar), have you received anything more? If so, how long after the interview did it take? What exactly was the next step?

I'm wondering if this is for a different group who interviewed for the position, than the group I'm in - I have yet to hear ANYTHING on this position - and I interviewed in Jan/Feb this year.

If I'm not being considered anymore, I would have thought I would have received a thin letter by now????

Can anyone lend me some information please??

THanks!

My current job has quite a few people who are jumping ship for this IOI thing. One of which interviewed just a little after you and hasn't heard a thing. Several others of which got the letter saying they were "qualified for the job", and they got that letter ages ago, and they haven't heard anything since. There seems to have been a big slow down on all accounts. My bet is they're concentrating on the stack of papers they've had on they're desks a little longer before getting to those.

On the other hand, one of my other coworkers interviewed and told them he was not interested in relocating (He lives in Western NY where they are NOT hiring). About 2 or 3 months after that he got a letter saying he was no longer being considered for the position.

If you haven't got that letter yet, then you're still in. All you can really do is sit tight. At the same time, maybe you should give them a call to check on your paper work. I'll PM the number to you IF I can find it. All the best

[Recon 5764]

Hello all,
I have been busy getting ready to go to FLETC. I hope all are well, anxious but well. The IOI job is a great job. I am looking forward to getting done with training and getting to the 'real' job. For those waiting....the school has been changed it is only six weeks and two days. The next class is the end of Aug thru Oct. 5. Keep the faith the industry is in need of more of us. Good Luck to all.......off to the land of salad bars and sand fleas.

RECON :D

[1172]

Hello all,
I have been busy getting ready to go to FLETC. I hope all are well, anxious but well. The IOI job is a great job. I am looking forward to getting done with training and getting to the 'real' job. For those waiting....the school has been changed it is only six weeks and two days. The next class is the end of Aug thru Oct. 5. Keep the faith the industry is in need of more of us. Good Luck to all.......off to the land of salad bars and sand fleas.

RECON :D
The condensed FLETC isn't due to them moving it to 6 days a week is it? because been there done that. It's not too fun. Still, 6 weeks and 2 days is so short, my last trip there was 16 weeks.

[Anchor]

The condensed FLETC isn't due to them moving it to 6 days a week is it? because been there done that. It's not too fun. Still, 6 weeks and 2 days is so short, my last trip there was 16 weeks.


I hope it is not a six day work week, I am still waiting to get paid for the first time I was at FLETC and had to work six days.

[Recon 5764]

The condensed FLETC isn't due to them moving it to 6 days a week is it? because been there done that. It's not too fun. Still, 6 weeks and 2 days is so short, my last trip there was 16 weeks.


NO it is only five days a week and get this......we graduate on a Monday morning at 11:00. Why can't we just graduate friday afternoon....go figure.

[MWATHRT]

OK - Get this people - I called ATF Recruiter in Headquarters to check on my file as I have not received ANYTHING after my interview, which by the way was in January.

I was told my file is still being REVIEWED!! What the heck??? They're reviewing my file for the last six months????!!!!???

Have any of you ever heard about this stuff happening????? Should I be concerned?????

[ATF SAC]

See, the difference between an experienced IOI and a newbie is that the experienced will always take a little extra per diem when it is offered. Or the bargaining unit has rules about weekend travel or the course content requires that last full day or all of the above. It really is a great job don't get ulcers over the extra day or two.

Don't be overly concerned about the file review. That is a status that you are in until selections are offered. not like a room full of folks are full time looking at your stuff. Recognize there are a lot of moving parts here including budget and training availability issues that get considered alongside the "file review".

[Anchor]

Hey All

I just got the call for ATF! The bad news is that they offered me Jackson Mississippi. I will have to turn it down it is just to far of a move.Good luck to all I hope that you get the city and state you are hoping for!

[TX22]

Was that even one of your choices? Was this the only choice they gave you?

[Simon]

Hey All

I just got the call for ATF! The bad news is that they offered me Jackson Mississippi. I will have to turn it down it is just to far of a move.Good luck to all I hope that you get the city and state you are hoping for!

Sorry to hear that you'll be passing on the opportunity. Now I'm really on pins and needles about getting the call. Good luck all!

[Anchor]

Was that even one of your choices? Was this the only choice they gave you?


No it was not one of my choices, I wanted Atlanta or something close, Jackson was the only place the offered me in the southeast if that is what you would call southeast. Good luck all!

[Anchor]

I just want to let you all know, I just got off the phone with ATF. We were trying to work something out as far as locations of field offices. The women told me that with this Aug class there are a lot of people that the hiring board approved for hiring but not for any of the 5 choices on the your top five list.

I don't want to get you down I just want you to have sometime to think about some other places that you may poss want to live! Again you all may get the location you want!

Again good luck!

[TX22]

I just want to let you all know, I just got off the phone with ATF. We were trying to work something out as far as locations of field offices. The women told me that with this Aug class there are a lot of people that the hiring board approved for hiring but not for any of the 5 choices on the your top five list.

I don't want to get you down I just want you to have sometime to think about some other places that you may poss want to live! Again you all may get the location you want!

Again good luck!

Were you able to work anything out with ATF?

[Anchor]

Were you able to work anything out with ATF?

No I was not. It is very hard to get a GOV job in the same city as my husband. He works for the GOV also and this is the second job I have had to turn down do to location.
They really don't make it easy but I understand.

Good luck!

[Science]

Simon,

All this talk is making me nervous.... :eek: :eek:

I hope it works out for us...

Science

[Simon]

Simon,

All this talk is making me nervous.... :eek: :eek:

I hope it works out for us...

Science

Science,

No kidding. I'm driving my wife nuts with all my speculating and constant second guessing on where this process will take me. ;)

Mid-June is this week. This is the week we've been waiting for . . .

S-

[TX22]

Science,

No kidding. I'm driving my wife nuts with all my speculating and constant second guessing on where this process will take me. ;)

Mid-June is this week. This is the week we've been waiting for . . .

S-

I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one still waiting. This should be the week if they make the calls like they did for the other class. I hope they call TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

[Drew]

I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one still waiting. This should be the week if they make the calls like they did for the other class. I hope they call TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
Hey Tex,

I saw on an earlier post that you asked for cities in Texas? I think I asked for Dallas, Ft. Worth, and OKC. This waiting is driving me nuts. I keep giving my wife speculation and I think shes getting tired of it. I started this last year and told the guys that interviewed me in Dallas (last Aug) that I wouldn't be available until Aug of this year because of some contract work I had. Those are some words I wish I had never spoken. I guess we're all in the same boat. :D Patience is definetly a virtue that we have all mastered. ;)

[TX22]

Hey Tex,

I saw on an earlier post that you asked for cities in Texas? I think I asked for Dallas, Ft. Worth, and OKC. This waiting is driving me nuts. I keep giving my wife speculation and I think shes getting tired of it. I started this last year and told the guys that interviewed me in Dallas (last Aug) that I wouldn't be available until Aug of this year because of some contract work I had. Those are some words I wish I had never spoken. I guess we're all in the same boat. :D Patience is definetly a virtue that we have all mastered. ;)

Yeah, I asked for Houston, San Antonio, Dallas and Fort Worth. I picked Seattle WA as my last choice. I have been living here for the last two years and I desperately want to get back to Texas. I have heard so many rumors about slots in Texas that it's making my head spin. First I heard that Houston and San Antonio were fully staffed, then I heard that they were approving additional slots. I'm not sure what is going to happen. Only time will tell......... :o

[Drew]

[QUOTE=TX22]Yeah, I asked for Houston, San Antonio, Dallas and Fort Worth. I picked Seattle WA as my last choice. I have been living here for the last two years and I desperately want to get back to Texas. I have heard so many rumors about slots in Texas that it's making my head spin. First I heard that Houston and San Antonio were fully staffed, then I heard that they were approving additional slots. I'm not sure what is going to happen. Only time will tell......... :o[/QUOTE

I GOT THE CALL!!!!
1st choice Dallas field office. report date 8 Aug
class date 22 Aug.

She said that I was one of the first that got called and that the field office would give me a call in the next two weeks after everyone else was called and they know how many will be going to each field office.

I think this will be a great couple of weeks for all of us. :D

Godspeed
Drew

[TX22]

Congrats!!!!! I am really getting nervous now. Simon it looks like it's just me and you still waiting. Drew, did the lady that called you say she would be making more calls this week and next?

[ltdbcp01]

Congrats Drew. Looks like i'm still in the waiting game. Hope we all hear something soon. ;) ;)

[Simon]

Congrats!!!!! I am really getting nervous now. Simon it looks like it's just me and you still waiting. Drew, did the lady that called you say she would be making more calls this week and next?

I GOT THE CALL!!! I got my 5th choice, OKC! Same class dates as Drew. My wife is already scouting out homes and job possibilities.

TX22- Keep the faith. I'm sure it'll come for you too.

Drew- Congrats! Guess we'll be meeting in couple of months.

Anybody familiar with the OKC area? PM me.

S-

[Science]

Simon,

Congrats!!!! :-)

I got the call today also, but not for my picks. I'm debating and having a hard time. -- they said only 48 hours to decide. I hate my present job, but I don't know if i can move across the country. It's not just down the road.



:o :o :o

[TX22]

Science, what did they end up offering you?

[Simon]

Science-- I understand completely. I was hoping for KC, but I'm just as happy that they didn't offer CA, FL, or NY. Sorry, nothing personal to those who live in those states, but I like the midwest.

I still haven't "officially" accepted yet. I was at my p/t job and didn't call back to confirm before 4:30 EST. I'll be up bright and early tomorrow to make the call! :D

Now my big issue is that I just signed a new lease to move at the end of the month. (long story). Now I've got to break it before the ink's even dry. This oughta be fun.

TX22 & ltdbcp01-- Hang in there.

[Drew]

Congrats!!!!! I am really getting nervous now. Simon it looks like it's just me and you still waiting. Drew, did the lady that called you say she would be making more calls this week and next?
She said they would be making calls for the next two weeks. She said I was one of the first that was called. I wouldn't sweat it until after the first week of July. You'll get the call.

Drew

[Drew]

I GOT THE CALL!!! I got my 5th choice, OKC! Same class dates as Drew. My wife is already scouting out homes and job possibilities.

TX22- Keep the faith. I'm sure it'll come for you too.

Drew- Congrats! Guess we'll be meeting in couple of months.

Anybody familiar with the OKC area? PM me.

S-
OKC was on my list too. I was stationed there when I was in the Air Force. Its a great place to live, Really cheap and lots to do in Bricktown. Great microbrewery. I would have loved to have been offered OKC because you can live like a king for 50k. Email me and Ill give you some ideas for nice places to move to.

Later
Drew

[1172]

I got the magic call today too. I got my number 1 pick of Salt Lake City. Same reporting date (August 8th and Aug 22nd). The lady said I was the sixth customs and border protection officer she offered a job to today.
She told me I could have 48 hours to think about it, but I told her I didn't need it. Done is done!
Good luck to everyone!

[Science]

Congrats...

Still thinking about it... it's sooo freaking far away. On the other side of the country..........

and altho i've travelled abroad, i always came home..........

:(

decisions decisions... and thinking a little farther.. what am i going to do with my car for six weeks in a place that i know no one....

[TX22]

Congrats...

Still thinking about it... it's sooo freaking far away. On the other side of the country..........

and altho i've travelled abroad, i always came home..........

:(

decisions decisions... and thinking a little farther.. what am i going to do with my car for six weeks in a place that i know no one....

Science, are you thinking about going from East Coast to West Coast???? Where did they offer you?

[Science]

midwest to west coast

to a city that rolls its sidewalks up at 2100

[ltdbcp01]

Copngrats all you guys and gals that have gotten the call. I'm still here and jumping everytime the phone rings. People here on my present job are sitting on pins and needles too. After my BI came through and did my background the rumor really started flying about me leaving. The politicians (Mayor and Council) don't know what to do right now. Hope I get the call soon. My nerves are getting frayed. ;) ;)

[TX22]

midwest to west coast

to a city that rolls its sidewalks up at 2100


O.K. maybe it's a little too early for me. What??? I live on the West Coast right now. Where are you talking about???

[TX22]

BTW.....I got the call and I was offered Fort Worth, TX. Drew, I guess I will see you in class. I'll have to get with you later so you can tell me some good places to live in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.

[smitten25]

I put in for Atlanta, West Palm beach, Miami, Philly...and I got offered Boise Idaho!!! Thanks but no thanks..
Good luck to all

[ZSS]

i've been reading and keeping up with these posts....I am waiting for the call as well. My choices were all in the Northeast. Has anyone heard of any positions offered there....most of you all seem to be offered choices in the south and midwest...just waondering and still waiting. Congrats to all of you who got the call...and good luck to those still waiting patiently

[Science]

I put in for Atlanta, West Palm beach, Miami, Philly...and I got offered Boise Idaho!!! Thanks but no thanks..
Good luck to all


I am sooooooooooo sorry to hear that. Geesh.... and i thought the sidewalks being rolled up at 2100 was bad...

I spent the last two hours with a lieut. from the pd going over all my options in regards to this BIG move....

less than 24 hours to decide.... ho hum :o :o :o

[Drew]

BTW.....I got the call and I was offered Fort Worth, TX. Drew, I guess I will see you in class. I'll have to get with you later so you can tell me some good places to live in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.
Hey Tex,
I sent you a Private message with my personal info, in case you want some ideas for places to live here in DFW. I'll be working from home tomorrow if you want to drop me a line. Or email. I'll be traveling from Thurs to Tues of next week so if you drop a line after tomorrow I'll get back to you on Wed of next week.

Later
Drew

[1172]

i've been reading and keeping up with these posts....I am waiting for the call as well. My choices were all in the Northeast. Has anyone heard of any positions offered there....most of you all seem to be offered choices in the south and midwest...just waondering and still waiting. Congrats to all of you who got the call...and good luck to those still waiting patiently
I know new york state isn't hiring at all. I don't know about the rest of the north east.

[ltdbcp01]

Well, i'm still waiting! ;) ;) I've refused to let anyone use the telephone for fear that it will busy when they call. I'm glad to see that there are more of you who have gotten the call. I did call D.C. on Monday and was told that if I had not recieved a letter by now, then I was still in the phase to be hired. Wish they would hurry and call. :o

[ltdbcp01]

Well i'm still waiting. Looks like the forum has just about come to a halt. I'm starting to get a little nervous now since there has been no calls and no other activity on this forum. Anybody got any more information? ;) ;)

[3turner]

Congrats to all who have gotten the call in the last few days....you'll enjoy the job for sure as Gibbarn had told us before.

Science, you should take the job...you can always transfer later.

[Biddy1998]

I received notice that I was qualified in December, tested in January, interviewd in March and just sent it all my BI stuff last week 6/17. Anyone else in this same boat?

Also was wondering for those who are in and done with their BI, how long did your BI take and what can I expect?

Thank you for helping a anxious guy out. :o

[ltdbcp01]

Welcome to the waiting game! I applied in October (GS-9) recieved my letter in December that I was qualified. Interviewed February 1st. recieved my B/I packet in March. Met with B/I in April. My B/I packet was sent back in the end of April. Still waiting. ;) ;)

[Biddy1998]

Sorry to hear that. Well lets hope there is a future for the both of us. Thanks for the reply, good luck to you. ;)

[Science]

Congrats to all who have gotten the call in the last few days....you'll enjoy the job for sure as Gibbarn had told us before.

Science, you should take the job...you can always transfer later.


3Turner, Where are you in all of this? I can't remember. ARe you in a class now, or in the August class? It's been awhile since i've checked this forum. I did accept the job, but i haven't worked out any of the details. it's really stressful moving across the country w/o a lot of time between the training in GA then reporting back. Ah well....
;) ;)

My timeline... from what i remember
Applied in Oct 2004
Received letter stating I qual'd in Dec 2004 (GS9)
Called for interview in late Jan 2005
Sent & completed BI in late March 2005
BI started April 2005
Offered Job mid-June 2005

[3turner]

3Turner, Where are you in all of this?

I am in class now.... :D.

[1172]

I am in class now.... :D.
How is it? Easy? Hard? How's the FLETC chicken?

[Drew]

I received notice that I was qualified in December, tested in January, interviewd in March and just sent it all my BI stuff last week 6/17. Anyone else in this same boat?

Also was wondering for those who are in and done with their BI, how long did your BI take and what can I expect?

Thank you for helping a anxious guy out. :o
My BI was started in Mid-December 04 and was not finished until late April 05. I was in the military and moved around a lot so that may have contributed to it taking so long. I got the call about a month later. I also believe that it took so long because the IRS was holding up approval, waiting for me to file my 04 tax return.

Drew

[tzaval]

How is the training at FLETC set up? Is it like a classroom with lectures? Indep. Study? Is there a big test at the end? Any tests along the way? What happens if you do not pass the test - will you have the opportunity to take it again?

Thanks for your help!

[Biddy1998]

My BI was started in Mid-December 04 and was not finished until late April 05. I was in the military and moved around a lot so that may have contributed to it taking so long. I got the call about a month later. I also believe that it took so long because the IRS was holding up approval, waiting for me to file my 04 tax return.

Drew


Drew, that was a long BI. I haven't EVER moved and I have been at the same job for the last 5+ years. I am hoping this will speed up the process. So, have you go the call for an offer yet?

[1172]

How is the training at FLETC set up? Is it like a classroom with lectures? Indep. Study? Is there a big test at the end? Any tests along the way? What happens if you do not pass the test - will you have the opportunity to take it again?

Thanks for your help!

It's classroom. You'll be in class with about 50 other people. There will be 5 or 6 tests along the way. I think you can fail a few of them, but you want to keep your average above a certain point. If you study, you'll pass.
I get my info from a friend who already went through it. I don't know much else about it, except that the exact same piece of chicken will be part of 100's of meals until someone finally eats it. After a few days in the cafeteria down there, you'll see what I mean.

[tzaval]

It's classroom. You'll be in class with about 50 other people. There will be 5 or 6 tests along the way. I think you can fail a few of them, but you want to keep your average above a certain point. If you study, you'll pass.
I get my info from a friend who already went through it. I don't know much else about it, except that the exact same piece of chicken will be part of 100's of meals until someone finally eats it. After a few days in the cafeteria down there, you'll see what I mean.
Thanks for the info - have you heard back from them yet?

[1172]

Thanks for the info - have you heard back from them yet?
Yeah, he finished 6 or 8 months ago. He says the job feels like "he died and went to heaven". Of course that's in comparison to his last job/my current job, which can be pretty demanding.

[Science]

3Turner
i pm'd you.

science

[1172]

I got a couple ATF phone calls today. From the district manager (or something like that), and from the phoenix office where they want to send me direct deposit forms and insurance info.
Just keeping everyone updated on the process.

[Science]

I got a couple ATF phone calls today. From the district manager (or something like that), and from the phoenix office where they want to send me direct deposit forms and insurance info.
Just keeping everyone updated on the process.

I'm sorry.. so you're in the August class too? I haven't kept up with this forum. You're moving from NY to Phoenix? Is that right? What are your moving plans? Just wondering since i'm moving midwest to west coast. PM if you want. And have you received any info about the training in GA? I don't even know if we have to wear a suit to class everyday.

[Simon]

Anyone else in the August class, besides 1172, who've received phone calls from their assignment offices? I'm getting things packed up to move, including flying out to find housing. However, I'd feel a lot better if I had something in writing about my new job or at least a phone call from my my future place of business. Guess it's the stress of moving that's got me wondering.

Looking forward to meeting everyone in a few weeks!

S-

[1172]

I'm sorry.. so you're in the August class too? I haven't kept up with this forum. You're moving from NY to Phoenix? Is that right? What are your moving plans? Just wondering since i'm moving midwest to west coast. PM if you want. And have you received any info about the training in GA? I don't even know if we have to wear a suit to class everyday.

Oh, I'm in the August class alright. I'm moving to the SLC office. I don't know what my exact plans are, but I think it's going to involve a storage unit, and three unfortunate cross country trips (ie drive my stuff to utah, then down to GA, then back to UT) I haven't worked it all out yet. As far as finding a place, My area manager (or whatever the title was) said the office there would send me a packet of info on where to live, apartment listings...ect. They seem pretty helpful.
You won't have to wear a suit every day, they'll give you some make shift uniforms on the first day (probably collared pull over shirts and pants). You will most likely have to wear a shirt and tie on the first day, as that's how it all worked when I went there for immigration training.

[Science]

Thanks for the info. I don't feel so crazy with this moving across country stuff.... :eek:

[Drew]

Drew, that was a long BI. I haven't EVER moved and I have been at the same job for the last 5+ years. I am hoping this will speed up the process. So, have you go the call for an offer yet?
yes, I will be in the Aug 22 class and was assigned to the Dallas Field Office.

[Drew]

Anyone else in the August class, besides 1172, who've received phone calls from their assignment offices? I'm getting things packed up to move, including flying out to find housing. However, I'd feel a lot better if I had something in writing about my new job or at least a phone call from my my future place of business. Guess it's the stress of moving that's got me wondering.

Looking forward to meeting everyone in a few weeks!

S-
I recieved the letter saying congratulations and confirming the pay rate, start date, etc. I have not recieved a call from the Dallas Field office yet. I guess they will call some time in July as the date get closer.

Drew

[1172]

I got another call from ATF yesterday, this one was from a future co worker assigned to get me the housing info. He says the training at FLETC consists of a defensive driving course (I took this one before, it consists of driving around a cone obtical course, and skidding in circles enough to make you sick), and a day at the firing range. Obviously this isn't an all inclusive list, but I just thought you all might be interested.

[Biddy1998]

yes, I will be in the Aug 22 class and was assigned to the Dallas Field Office.


Congrats!!! I hope to be able to say that I too received a call soon. However, since my BI is not back I am setting my sights on the Oct class.

[3turner]

Hi all, been a bit busy and have not been able to post. But to those previous posts that I can recall...the chicken is good, not great. I have not seen any repeat pieces of chicken, but I have noticed that the left overs from lunch will show up a dinner that same night. Wednesday is steak day :D .

So far there have been 4 tests at each class, so I don't think they would take any away or add any others.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but the driving block of instruction has been removed and something else has been inserted in its place...a lot more fun if I do say so my self :cool:.

But there is talk of another type of "requirement" that may end up in the training that no other class has been required to do...no details as of yet since it is still up in the air and has not been brought up since mentioned.

Good luck to all who are still waiting for calls.

3T

[ATF SAC]

Don't be shy about calling your new area supervisor and saying hi and introducing yourself. Sometimes your office is the last to hear that you are coming and you can fall into the trap where your new office is wondering why you haven't called and you are wondering if they are rude. Not the best start and really a product of you knowing where you are going well before they do. Go ahead and ask for info about the area or where other IOI's live. Also a nice opportunity to introduce yourself to the DIO (you may be working in a different location). Good question is to find out whether the practice in the new office is to use a government vehicle for work or to use a personal vehicle on a reimbursable basis (hint, most inspectors use their own car).

Also a good opportunity to find out about your first day. I would generally meet with the new inspectors after a few hours of paperwork and administer the oath of office, but sometimes would drag them and new agents in front of a Federal Judge for the oath. (humbly, I was better at it than the judges who often said "Raise your right hand and repeat after me" and then read the whole thing non stop. I would pause every few words. Really humbly, they were more impressive with it than me.)

[ltdbcp01]

Hi everyone, i've been away for a couple of weeks. but i'm still here waiting PATIENTLY!!!! ;) ;) Did I hear mention of a October class? I called Washington a couple of weeks ago and all they would tell me is that my paper work is still in the hiring process. :o I guess that is good in a way since it means that I have not recieved the dreaded LETTER.

[1172]

I got two packets from the ATF today, one was full of housing info (like newspaper sections and magazine type things) in the Salt Lake area, the other was asking me to look over insurance info to make a decision on which i'd like, and to get my bank account for deposit info.

It's the first written anything I've gotten. It makes me feel safe enough to put in my notice. I'll let you all know if anything else happens...

[Biddy1998]

Has anyone been able to confirm if there is and October class in the works or not? Not that I am at that stage yet, but it doesn't hurt to dream.

ATF IOI
Applied - 11/04
Tested - 1/05
Interviewed - 3/05
Rec. BI Packet - 06/05
Returned Packet - 6/05
Still waiting . . . ;) ;) ;)

[1172]

I got the official written job offer today, and I put in my notice at work. Flee-tec here I come.

[Biddy1998]

I got the official written job offer today, and I put in my notice at work. Flee-tec here I come.


1172,

Just for the benefit of some of us that don't know your timeline would you outline it for us from time of application to job offer.

Thanks, and congrats !!! :t- up:

[Simon]

[QUOTE=Biddy1998]Has anyone been able to confirm if there is and October class in the works or not? QUOTE]

Just got a PM from Recon at FLETC. He says they've heard there is an October class! This should be good news for those waiting for an offer. Good luck to everyone.

When I get there in August, I'll do my best to return Recon and 3T's favors of answering all my PM questions by answering PMs from those waiting for the next class.

Biddy, here's my timeline to give you some idea:

App: 10/04
Acknowledged: 11/04
Interview: 1/05
BI Packet Recv'd: 3/05
BI Started: 4/05
Offer and Location: 6/05
Start date & FLETC: 8/05

[1172]

1172,

Just for the benefit of some of us that don't know your timeline would you outline it for us from time of application to job offer.

Thanks, and congrats !!! :t- up:

I think my timeline is almost exactly the same as Simon's.

[tzaval]

Anyone know whether we get paid while we are at FLETC? I am assuming we are paid for being there, but will we be paid while we are actually down there? Also, do you know how often we are paid - every two weeks? every week? once a month?

Thanks for the help!!

[Biddy1998]

Congrats Simon and 1172. Good luck in FLETC. Hope to be able to say soon that I am right behind you guys.

[lukeaustin]

Yes you get paid while you are at FLETC. It is a very easy 7 weeks so I would not worry about it.

[Biddy1998]

I sent in my BI paperwork over 3 weeks ago and haven't heard from anyone yet. I know they received it because I tracked it with Fed Ex and I know it is a lengthy process. Has anyone else had this problem or delay? I want to call them to confirm and check on the status, but don't want to hassle anyone either, what do you think? Any advice would be appreciated.


;) :o ;)

[Simon]

Biddy,

I think we've all been in the same "waiting" boat at one time or another. I won't bore you with the stress I went through during my wait. It was brutal. Regardless, it doesn't hurt to call and confirm with ATF that they've received your packet. That'll be good for your sanity. However, I wouldn't call on a daily basis. Remember: No thin letter means you're still in the hunt.

In my opinion, the fact that you were selected to complete a BI packet is a very good sign. Do your best to focus on the good news: They're planning on an October class! The August class runs from Aug. 22nd to Oct. 7th, so in theory you should know something soon.

Good luck and keep the faith.

S-

[Biddy1998]

Simon,

Thank you so much for the "keep your chin up." You guys all know the process, sometimes it is just nice to know that you are not the only playing the waiting game. Good luck to you and congrats on the job.

JB

[1172]

Three weeks is a very short period of time to expect anything. I think I waited a few months before the BII contacted me. If you got this far you're a shoe in. I wouldn't count on the October class though (sorry if I sound overly negative). I say that just because I sent in my BI packet at least 5-6 months ago, and am only now in a FLETC class.
Other than that though, the job really is yours, It's just an extreme matter of patience.
Best of luck.

[Biddy1998]

1172,

What can I say, I am like everyone else and eager. Thanks for all the advice. I will just learn to be a little patient and relax. Of course as you all know thats easier said then done. Thanks again and don't ever worry about being negitive, your being honest and it is expected.

[Science]

biddy,

be patient. i didn't think i would ever get the call either, and when it came, i wasn't really prepared (mainly b/c i didn't get any of my choices as far as locality), but keep doing what you're doing. Enjoy life, and whoever and whatever you have right now. Not to get real deep here, but this process has made me think a lot about a lot of things. Soon enough, i will be starting over. New friends, new job, new life... I don't know anyone where I am going... so enjoy what you have now. the call will come. i fretted and wasted a lot of time thinking about getting kicked for crazy reasons.. but the call finally came. :-)

everything happens for a reason... even tho it's hard to see it down that dark dark tunnel......

[Biddy1998]

Science,

Thanks for the input. Things really aren't to bad here right now, I have a decent job (although not LE), working on my Masters, and enjoying my time. I am just like everyone else out there trying to get into LE and being eager and not very patient. Thank you for your response.

[Drew]

Hey guys,
I have been traveling alot for the past two weeks so I have been out of the loop. Simon, sorry I didnt reply to your PM until today. I have some apartment and housing guides for OKC and if anyone needs some for the Dallas-Ft.Worth area I will be glad to send some to you.

I am still waiting to hear from the Dallas field office to speak with my new supervisor. I tried to call this evening to introduce myself but it was after 5pm so I got the message machine. I am getting very excited about the first day on the job; 8 Aug and class on the 22nd.

For those of you who are newer, remember that the govt has spent a lot of time and man hours on you already for the BI and so forth, you are likely good to go, just a waiting game now. My BI was started in Dec 04 and was not completely finished until 22 April 05. I got the call in June. It can take a while. Others on this board were finished with the BI in a month. I was very frustrated because I started this whole process in May or June of 2004 and it took so long in between contact with any officials. I kept setting dates in my mind and then assuring my wife that "next month" this or that should happen. I was full of self doubt because other people were through the whole thing in six months.

When I was waiting I found comfort in this message board as it was the only source of information I could get. I suppose we all learned early that we need to count on each other for help and inspiration. If your paperwork is taking longer than others on the board, dont worry. We all concern ourselves that we may not make the "next" class. Dont worry, there are going to be more classes. You will get the call. Dont ever wish time away, you only get it once. Patience

We are all in this together.

Godspeed,

Drew

[christienyca]

Does anyone know if we will be required to wear uniforms for this position? Good luck to all who are still waiting for the call. I can't wait to meet those of you who will be in the August class.

[1172]

Collared shirt and khaki pants, both from your own wardrobe. A liberal uniform, if you will. There should be a "uniform" uniform down at FLETC though.

[ATF SAC]

Once you are through training you will be getting a "kit" of equipment including BDU type tan pants and soft golf type shirts, jackets, which will be useful for certain field work. Attire, depending on your assignments will range from full corporate battle dress through business casual to the aforementioned "uniform." Good luck to all of you heading off to new offices, training and what I hope for each of you is a rewarding and fulfilling career.

Keeping the rules working well for business and public safety, keeping your ears open to what is going on in the firearms and explosives industries and gaining cooperation in particular have never been more important. Not all the rules are designed to make it particularly easy to regulate segments, but you should get it that doing good work in this area saves lives up the road.

[Recon 5764]

Collared shirt and khaki pants, both from your own wardrobe. A liberal uniform, if you will. There should be a "uniform" uniform down at FLETC though.


We are required to wear at least a shirt and tie (suit preferred) unless we are going on an inspection. They are suggesting that we not wear "ATF" stuff on FFL inspections.

Equipment: We ordered and received most of our uniforms and equipment while waiting to go to FLETC.

Good Luck to everyone going (coming) to FLETC.

[MEB0321]

I interviewed in March 2005 and still have not heard anything yet. During the interview, I did mention that I would not be finishing my degree until August 2005 which would have taken me out of the timeline for the June and August classes. Not that I'm looking for the "thin letter" in the mail but I thought that if I had failed the interview, I would have been notified by now. What do you guys think? Good luck to everyone still in the process or on the way to FLETC.

[Biddy1998]

MEB,

If you haven't got the dreaded "thin letter" you are still in the running. I myself interviewed in March and I just heard back about my BI in June. Hang in there and keep your nose to the grindstone until August.

[Science]

Science,

Thanks for the input. Things really aren't to bad here right now, I have a decent job (although not LE), working on my Masters, and enjoying my time. I am just like everyone else out there trying to get into LE and being eager and not very patient. Thank you for your response.


You're welcome... Keep in mind, this is not an LE position, but perhaps a vehicle to get you to one.... :-)

[ATF SAC]

Just a slight cautionary note. While there is no bar to IOI's applying for 1811 postions both within and without ATF; neither does ATF view the IOI position as a holding or developmental slot for future 1811's. It does not provide some special track to encourage such movement and hiring personnel focus on hiring folks who want to be IOI's as IOI's. Doesn't mean folks can't move around and that they haven't; but it is certainly arguable that there are other positions in the Government with better placement records for 1811 positions (USSS-UD comes to mind). So long as you are aware that ATF wants and needs IOIs the way the FBI needs Intelligence Analysts for example and will try as appropriately as possible not to rob Peter to pay Paul, you should be fine.

There are folks who can, from their experience, figure that I have got this wrong, but I would suggest that this is a result of a big hiring push and restructuring within ATF that occured back in the late 90's. We did in fact on a short term basis make a special focus and effort on getting those Inspector's at the time who wanted to apply to be agents do so. The only time that happened in my 27 years and a number of folks responded, but not most Inspectors. I would really suggest that if an LE gig is your true desire that you apply for that. It is what ATF will make you do if you desire to switch - start at the beginning along with all the outside applicants.

The IOI slot is a vital job for ATF and an excellent job overall but I would seek it on its merits and not as a stage to something else.

[CPD-Dispatcher]

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