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Sig 20
08-21-2001, 23:45
Looking for the answers....I am wondering what do the seasoned officers find that wash out the recruits from FTo training the most????? Any and all help will we so much appreciated! This board is so AWESOME! Again thank you so much in advance!



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bigz
08-22-2001, 02:33
I think the number one thing that washes people out is integrity problems. On my first day with my department one of the Captains told us that if we make a mistake, but made a decision based on a good heart we might take some heat but would keep our jobs. If you lie about something or make choices with other than good motives that's what will get you in trouble.


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Ranger337
08-22-2001, 04:26
Poor reports are another BIG thing that will wash out probies. Also if the probie has a difficult time adjusting to police work, such as poor communication skills, poor community relations, habitualy calling out wrong streets of where you're at, and having just a plain rough time at police work in general.

I just had a good friend "forced" to resign because he had a terriable time calling out what street he was on, and some other minor things. He is now a reserve officer for the dept. and is in kind of a "limbo" From what I understand he will be re-evulatd in 6 months and possibly get his position back if he improves.

Best of luck to you,
Ranger337

Devildog93
08-22-2001, 05:04
I would have to agree with the other replies with a couple to add. Orientation(location) is a key which takes you into the other area that can get you to the unemployment line or even worse---OFFICER SAFETY. Knowing you location and the location of your fellow Officers is important if you or they need help in a hurry. Officer Safety is the main key in my book. We all want to go home at the end of the shift.

kapsig42
08-22-2001, 15:29
since i have started i have noticed just to watch yourself all the way around. all the above are great examples. show your best and that you want to improve in your weak areas.

geodetective
08-24-2001, 11:12
In my department, it seems like the two things that wipe out most probationary police officers are poor report writing and officer safety. If you can't do your job safely you are a liability to yourself and to your partners; and if you can't write a report you decrease your chance of obtaining a conviction on the turds you bust by a factor of ten. And that's the whole idea, isn't it? To put away bad guys and still go home when the shift is over?

geo

UN_Cop
08-26-2001, 21:47
I found a way for "rooks" to remeber where they were, at least it worked the few times I had to use it. In New Orleans we have a few questionable areas to patrol. My rook and I would be on patrol at a late hour. I would drive to one of the aforementioned areas and suddenly stop to car. Everyone can guess what happend next. The dreaded question, "Where are we?" If he/she was unable to tell me they had to get out of the car, find a street sign in the area and give me a location. To add insult to injury I would tell them that I have been know to leave, I never did but they did not know that. Needless to say they would know pretty much where they were from that point on.

Anyway, enough of the strories. My point in reference to the post. Always know your location. That was an issue I would gig someone on. Never had to offically burn a FNG, but after walking in a housing project at 03:00 in the morning, they got the hint.

I like what was bigZ said about mistakes. I heard the same thing from our SO. Make a mistake of the heart, that can be fixed. A willfull mistake olf the head, you're on your own.

Rooks, you WILL stumble no matter how hard you try. If you try to hard it will sometimes make it worse. If you try and cover it, it will almost asuredly make it worse. I can say I have gotten out of a couple of pinches by saying, "Sarge, I "F"ed up". Take your butt chewing and drive on, learn from the mistake.

Take care and be safe.

JDG1872
08-29-2001, 17:36
Attitude

I have seen attitude as another big factor in being washed out during FTO.

Its one thing to not get along with your FTO, but you see some rookies with a bad attitude; somehow they make it through the Academy and when they come aboard they seem to have developed a major relation problem.

Sometimes you see it from somewhat experienced officers who move in from another department and feel that they have been there and done that, and they seem to vent during FTO.


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keough21
09-27-2001, 11:54
I have to say that Officer Safety and Report Writing are the biggest burdens on a 1st timer. If you don' have your head screwed on right and take the job seriously, the chances of making it to the end of the program are very, very slim. I am still in the program in the North Texas area and will tell you that Officer Safety and Report Writing will eat a new guy up if nothing else.

hope it helps

Texas officer

Sig 20
09-30-2001, 22:02
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I hope I got all this! Keep my mouth shut, pay attention, learn where I am at, at all times, KEEP MY ATTITUDE IN CHECK (Got that one!). Most of all keep safety in mind at all times, and learn how to report write! Thank you all that posted! It has been such a great help, as I start FTO phase in 2 weeks! Any others that reply will be also welcome and appreciated!


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keough21
10-01-2001, 22:16
Sig,

That is pretty much it. You do all that, with integrity thrown in there, and your ready to protect and serve those fine and outstanding citizens, we all have :).

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donnie999
10-02-2001, 11:46
You guys are REMARKABLE. I am trying to get in LE and I have a application everywhere (local and federal). Now I know what I have to do also so I wont washout in the FTO program.

Thanks
Don