Drugs over the chat room?

[concord160]

Any drug detectives have any luck in getting into a chat room and working up a deal??

I have been looking in the Charlotte, NC rave chat rooms and seen alot of potential dealers. We border Charlotte, so thats were alotof our dope comes from.

Just wondering if anyone has made a case this way and taken it through court.

[gbcop]

I can't remeber the dept or the Det's name's. But I THINK they were located in Colorado. But these 2 detective's were going on-line and posing as 15yo boy's or girl's, and letting the pedophile's come and find them. They had a damn good convection record, 100% I believe. Hopefully someone can point you to these dective's, so you could contact them. I'm SURE they would be more than willing to provide you with some valuable advice.

The only advice I can offer is to document EVERYTHING.

Take care, and good luck!!

David

[muleskinner]

http://www.blueridgethunder.com/

I think it was dumb of this dept to have a feature on a major TV reporting show cause it gave to much attention to what was an undercover opertion. Now any sex offender watchign TV knows to stay away from blue ridge. But heres the addy anyway I think these guys woudl be good to talk to with regards to settign up internet initiated opertions and apprehensions.

mule

[gbcop]

muleskinner-

Thanks for the link, maybe I'm just blind, but I wasn't aware they had a website. And I agree with you 100% that was poor judgement to make there operation widely known. But who knows, maybe for a change it's actually deterring crime.. :(

[nsedet]

Originally posted by muleskinner

I think it was dumb of this dept to have a feature on a major TV reporting show cause it gave to much attention to what was an undercover opertion. Now any sex offender watchign TV knows to stay away from blue ridge. But heres the addy anyway I think these guys woudl be good to talk to with regards to settign up internet initiated opertions and apprehensions.



muleskinner,

It was 'dumb' from what perspective? It seems to me that the purpose of law enforcement is to protect the community, and if this level of publicity keeps offenders out of the county, then the Sheriff has done his job remarkably well. That aside, it is important that law enforcement seek to educate the community--esp. parents--on the isse of 'cybercrime,' and media coverage can be an effective way of doing so. Maybe this county has reduced its own effectiveness through publicity, but if that publicity helps other agencies to implement and support such efforts, then the overall effectiveness of law enforcement is that much stronger.

[jaybird]

to Concord,
I think this is a pretty good question.
IF you ask me, why would this be hard to pull off? Seems like run things just as you normally would.
I would be very interested in working on internet crime myself. I've got sort of a nack for computers and would love to get involved in internet investigation or crimes.

Keep us posted if you find out something else,
Jay

[krellum]

I think there's a big difference between internet porn investigations and potential internet drug cases. Some Fed agencies also have internet crime units who go after these pedophiles (like the detectives in Colorado) - the difference I see in the pedophile cases versus drug cases via the internet is that while it is a crime to download/possess/send child porn via the net, I don't belive it is a crime to TALK about taking/selling/using drugs in a chat room (stupid, yes; illegal, no).

What I mean is, LE officers who troll the net for pedophiles need only get some mope to send them some illegal porn via the net, then they find the guy via the ISP, get a warrant, and pop him (it's not rellly THAT simple, but you get my meaning). Naturally, they have a 100% conviction rate.

For drugs, I imagine that this would be more difficult, since the UC officer on the net would actually have to arrange a physical transaction and carry it through to get to the illegal act: for porn, the illegal substance is illegally transmitted via elctronic medium; for drugs, you'd generally need a physical transaction (until someone invents "cybercrank").

k