And Yet Another FBI IA Thread!!

[electra1978]

We are on a roll people!!! :)

[darkstar]

electra, that's funny... you posted a new thread at the same time i did... looks like people have a choice, like coke versus pepsi... :)

[atxtallguy]

We are on a roll people!!! :)


wooohooo!!! Let's do it! :wave:

[electra1978]

"I'm curious of those of you who have applied to a FO vacancy, where have you all ended up? How many have been posted to their local FO, and how many ended up at HQ? I'm curious if anyone has been sent to an FO outside of their region. When I last spoke to the woman in staffing at my local FO, she indicated that it was pretty full, but that they were aggressively trying to fill slots at HQ. I guess that would be ok, but I'm wondering if they also send folks off to different FO's as well. If I'm going to have to leave my current home, it would be nice to move somewhere where the cost of living is a bit more favorable. I suppose moving to DC wouldn't be much of a break coming from the Bay Area. I guess the most important thing is finding a place where the work is rewarding and career advancement is possible. I can't help but think about the personal considerations as well, however."
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When I was asked to list my 3 choices, I said my FO, DC, and NY. The panel advised me to go with a smaller FO if given a choice instead of HQ. They said there have been a number of cases of newly-hired "green" IAs sent to HQ and left to sink or swim without receiving the proper training. I thought that was interesting...

[electra1978]

electra, that's funny... you posted a new thread at the same time i did... looks like people have a choice, like coke versus pepsi... :)

That's awesome!!! Hey, where did you post your thread? I can't find it...

[darkstar]

That's awesome!!! Hey, where did you post your thread? I can't find it...

should be right under this one... "yet another new IA thread"... looks like it's already fallen into disuse... the almighty internet forum consumer has spoken...

[electra1978]

should be right under this one... "yet another new IA thread"... looks like it's already fallen into disuse... the almighty internet forum consumer has spoken...

LOL. You gave it your all though. :) I suspect this thread will be closed yet again in oh about 1.5 weeks... You'll get your chance!!

Hey, where are you in the IA process now??

[darkstar]

Hey, where are you in the IA process now??

basically same place as i was 2 weeks ago... interview on thursday... i think i'm one of the last of the "regular" posters who'll interview during the current round... i wish it was already over so i can get on w/ my normal life...

[achefswife]

Congratulations on your progression through the process. I noticed that you're from Birmingham. I'm in Auburn for the time being and I was just wondering if you did your interview at the Birmingham FO and if so do you happen to have any idea if they're still doing interviews there. I've been waiting patiently hoping that I'll be called sometime for an interview but it doesn't look like thats going to happen. Just stuck at the best qualified status for about 3 weeks now. I'm beginning to think that since my background is in an unrelated field I may be left in the cold. But at least I made this far if thats the case. Nevertheless I'm happy for you and all the others that are beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnell.

I was told my the security officers that several interviewees had come through earlier in the week for an interview so I'm assuming that they are still conducting them, but I am not sure how long this will go on. This FO is not the most organized (I think it's because they are processing us in the midst of trying to get the new facility dedicated and stuff). Just hang in there. What field is your background in?

[achefswife]

basically same place as i was 2 weeks ago... interview on thursday... i think i'm one of the last of the "regular" posters who'll interview during the current round... i wish it was already over so i can get on w/ my normal life...

The interview only increases the anxiety. It makes getting on with your lifeeven more difficult.

[electra1978]

The interview only increases the anxiety. It makes getting on with your lifeeven more difficult.

Yup, I have to agree. It's a different anxiety. Once you get the call to interview it's awesome, once you have the interview great, but then you're left wondering what will happen now? Will I get to move forward and do the poly, and medical tests? Once I do that, will I get a CO?? Endless questions, but very worth it in the end I believe...

[darkstar]

Yup, I have to agree. It's a different anxiety. Once you get the call to interview it's awesome, once you have the interview great, but then you're left wondering what will happen now? Will I get to move forward and do the poly, and medical tests? Once I do that, will I get a CO?? Endless questions, but very worth it in the end I believe...

seems logical, but i'm hoping it's not the case... i'm pretty good at setting aside situations that i cannot control, or at least directly effect... life after interview seems like one of those, so until then i'll prepare for the it in every way possible, but after that it's pretty much out of my hands... guess we'll see...

how did yours go? did they give any indication as to when you might hear something?

[Jedburgh II]

Once you get the call to interview it's awesome, once you have the interview great, but then you're left wondering what will happen now? Will I get to move forward and do the poly, and medical tests? Once I do that, will I get a CO?? Endless questions, but very worth it in the end I believe...
A couple of days after my interview, an HR rep from the FO where I interviewed called me and asked me to fax them copies of my DD214s (proof of separation from military service). She then went right ahead and scheduled my PSI and poly. She also gave me a two-week window during which she said, "you will be called with your conditional offer of employment...". (actually, she first gave me a specific date, then backtracked to the two-week window)

Seems an odd way of doing things, but as long its moving forward...

[electra1978]

seems logical, but i'm hoping it's not the case... i'm pretty good at setting aside situations that i cannot control, or at least directly effect... life after interview seems like one of those, so until then i'll prepare for the it in every way possible, but after that it's pretty much out of my hands... guess we'll see...

how did yours go? did they give any indication as to when you might hear something?

It went great. They seemed impressed with my responses, and I was even more sure that I had found my career. I was told that they were going to conduct a caucus after all the interviews were done, but I know some people on the board heard back literally the day after their interview...

[electra1978]

A couple of days after my interview, an HR rep from the FO where I interviewed called me and asked me to fax them copies of my DD214s (proof of separation from military service). She then went right ahead and scheduled my PSI and poly. She also gave me a two-week window during which she said, "you will be called with your conditional offer of employment...". (actually, she first gave me a specific date, then backtracked to the two-week window)

Seems an odd way of doing things, but as long its moving forward...

That's great! When did you do your interview?? Things seemed to go really well today, and I filled out my SF-86 VERY thoroughly so I feel like things should proceed soon... Hopefully I'm not deluding myself. :)

[Jedburgh II]

That's great! When did you do your interview?? Things seemed to go really well today, and I filled out my SF-86 VERY thoroughly so I feel like things should proceed soon... Hopefully I'm not deluding myself. :)
I had my interview on 12 July. The request for the DD214s was on the 15th, and my PSI and poly are scheduled for late August. The HR rep first stated I would receive my CO on 29 July, then she backed up and gave me a window of the week prior to and the week after that date.

The panel advised me to go with a smaller FO...
When asked to list my preferences, I had a short discussion regarding assignments with the panel. They essentially recommended I choose large FOs as my preferences, as that is the type of assignment where I would ultimately end up at.

[OrangeAlum2003]

A couple of days after my interview, an HR rep from the FO where I interviewed called me and asked me to fax them copies of my DD214s (proof of separation from military service). She then went right ahead and scheduled my PSI and poly. She also gave me a two-week window during which she said, "you will be called with your conditional offer of employment...". (actually, she first gave me a specific date, then backtracked to the two-week window)

Seems an odd way of doing things, but as long its moving forward...

That sounds very similar to me. I was called the day after my interview by someone reviewing my SF-86. After some probing on my part, she said I should expect a CO in a couple of weeks. She also scheduled my poly for Aug. 19. I doubt they would schedule a poly without a forthcoming CO. So, we'll see what happens. They wanted to wrap up all interviews by the end of this month. Apparently, there wasn't enough time to do the PSI on the same day, so I'll have to do that another time. I'd prefer to get all the grilling done at one time, but what can you do?

As for choosing FO's it will be interesting to see where people start landing. So far on the board, I've only seen people who ended up at HQ. I'm anxious to see how the FO folks spread out.

[darkstar]

It went great. They seemed impressed with my responses, and I was even more sure that I had found my career. I was told that they were going to conduct a caucus after all the interviews were done, but I know some people on the board heard back literally the day after their interview...

glad to hear that, though i'm sure it's no surprise to those of us who've been following the numerous IA threads over the last couple of months... i expect you'll hear something positive very soon....

[TopJag]

My online status changed to "Best Qualified" last week. I am listed as "Best Qualified" from GS 11-14 ratings. As I posed the qustion on the previous thread before it was closed, what happens next or is my application dead in the water? I have a call into the Staffing Unit to see whats up. Has anyone got a CO without an interview?

Thanks,

TopJag

[OrangeAlum2003]

glad to hear that, though i'm sure it's no surprise to those of us who've been following the numerous IA threads over the last couple of months... i expect you'll hear something positive very soon....

Yeah, the interviews seem quite perfunctory actually. Even in the pre-interview letter I received, it said that the interview was designed to verify the veracity of your applicaiton. I think unless it turns out that someone totally lied on their application, a CO is forthcoming. In fact, other than those who were left in the cold from last year's interview blitz, it seems as though everyone who recently interviewed is getting an offer. It's funny though that one person recommended a smaller FO while the other recommended a larger one. I guess everyone has their own opinion. Wherever it is, I'd like to know sooner than later. That's the hard part.

[Jedburgh II]

It's funny though that one person recommended a smaller FO while the other recommended a larger one. I guess everyone has their own opinion. Wherever it is, I'd like to know sooner than later. That's the hard part.
The difference in type of recommended first asssignments may be in the entry pay-grade. If I recall correctly, Electra was interviewing for GS-7/9, while my app is for GS-12.

But all of us, I'm sure, would like to know exactly where we'll end up as soon as possible. I know for sure there's a move in store - there is no FO within any definition of a reasonable commute to where I live now.

[OrangeAlum2003]

The difference in type of recommended first asssignments may be in the entry pay-grade. If I recall correctly, Elekctra was interviewing for GS-7/9, while my app is for GS-12.

But all of us, I'm sure, would like to know exactly where we'll end up as soon as possible. I know for sure there's a move in store - there is no FO within any definition of a reasonable commute to where I live now.

Perhaps that's it. I applied for 9 and 11, but they made no distinction in the interview for what grade I would be considered. I'm glad I didn't apply at the 7 level, because there's no way I could afford to live on a 7 salary. I hope they would tell you where you'd be going in the CO, but my contact in my local FO made it sound like you would'nt find out until the end of the process. I sure hope there's a way to get the inside scoop before then.

[TopJag]

Following a very confusing issue, which is a better status between "Best Qualified" and "Referred to a Qualifying Official"? It seems interview requests soon followed a "Best Qualified" rating, yet "Referral" status lingered for some time. Does anybody have any insight to this rating system?

[Gigio]

Yup, I have to agree. It's a different anxiety. Once you get the call to interview it's awesome, once you have the interview great, but then you're left wondering what will happen now? Will I get to move forward and do the poly, and medical tests? Once I do that, will I get a CO?? Endless questions, but very worth it in the end I believe...

medical tests?

[BuMan]

medical tests?

Most positions in the FBI require a standard government physical. Not sure why, although I suppose it would be useful to know what preexisting conditions a candidate has for years down the road. For example, someone shows up in an office shouting obscenities left and right and can't change the behavior. If they've been through a medical screening, then they should have reported Tourettes (for example). Service as a sailor (using that only as an example - see, "Swears like a sailor") wouldn't be a medically acceptable reason for the behavior. :) Seriously, though, I suspect it just has to do with baseline occupational safety medical screening so someone can't complain about a problem they've had for years and try to get rich off the government. If they had it previously, failed to disclose it on the medical screening, and then tried to get the government to pay for it as an occupational-related condition, then they could be in line to get terminated for lying. But I don't know, I'm not a HR brown shirt.

[electra1978]

Most positions in the FBI require a standard government physical. Not sure why, although I suppose it would be useful to know what preexisting conditions a candidate has for years down the road. For example, someone shows up in an office shouting obscenities left and right and can't change the behavior. If they've been through a medical screening, then they should have reported Tourettes (for example). Service as a sailor (using that only as an example - see, "Swears like a sailor") wouldn't be a medically acceptable reason for the behavior. :) Seriously, though, I suspect it just has to do with baseline occupational safety medical screening so someone can't complain about a problem they've had for years and try to get rich off the government. If they had it previously, failed to disclose it on the medical screening, and then tried to get the government to pay for it as an occupational-related condition, then they could be in line to get terminated for lying. But I don't know, I'm not a HR brown shirt.

That makes a lot of sense, especially regarding mental conditions. With all the deranged people out there in the world, you certainly don't want to run into them in the halls of the FBI or any other agency for that matter. (sorry...just watched American Psycho) :)

[TopJag]

Following a very confusing issue, which is a better status between "Best Qualified" and "Referred to a Qualifying Official"? It seems interview requests soon followed a "Best Qualified" rating, yet "Referral" status lingered for some time. Does anybody have any insight to this rating system?

Here is the answer I received from the FBI HR if you are currently rated "Best Qualified":

If your application is to be continued further, the system will say “referred to selecting official”. When this happens, the selecting official will be making the final determination as to selection(s). Continue to monitor your vacancy status.

[bad_timing]

June 7, 05-Interview
June 14, 05-CO
June 30, 05-Written CO received
July 13, 05-PSI, F-prints
July 20, 05-poly
July 27, 05-BI Completed
???- Drug Test :o
???- Adjudication

[OrangeAlum2003]

June 7, 05-Interview
June 14, 05-CO
June 30, 05-Written CO received
July 13, 05-PSI, F-prints
July 20, 05-poly
July 27, 05-BI Completed
???- Drug Test :o
???- Adjudication

You'd think they would have tested your pee by now. Wouldn't that be something (though I'm sure it wouldn't be you) if they spent all that money/time on an applicant's BI and the test came back positive.

Also, your timeline is fast. You must be on the FBI fast-track. It hasn't even been two months since your interview.

[waitingindc]

June 7, 05-Interview
June 14, 05-CO
June 30, 05-Written CO received
July 13, 05-PSI, F-prints
July 20, 05-poly
July 27, 05-BI Completed
???- Drug Test :o
???- Adjudication
How did they manage to complete your BI in what, 2 weeks? Mine has been going for 4 months...

[ricki223]

Here is the answer I received from the FBI HR if you are currently rated "Best Qualified":

If your application is to be continued further, the system will say “referred to selecting official”. When this happens, the selecting official will be making the final determination as to selection(s). Continue to monitor your vacancy status.

Did they happen to say why people go from being referred to best qualified then? Does that mean that the application was demoted? And if so I wonder for what reason. That just seems backwards to me because on the announcement it says that only those deemed best qualified would be contacted for interviews.

[bad_timing]

I have no idea how they completed my bi so quick. All I know is that my background is clean but I'm sure that everyone else in this forum has a flawless background as well. I personally spoke to the investigator who was conducting my investigation today after he interviewed my supervisor, co-workers etc. and he informed me that he was done (interviews, credit check, academic verification etc.). He told me that he would be sending my file to DC tomorrow. I guess it just depends on the motivation of the investigator who is handling each individual case. That doesn't mean I wont sit in adjudication for 4 months though. So it looks like I will be floating in the same boat as everyone else...waiting for the final call ;) If I have learned anything throughout this process it is that no two people have the same experience.

[diablo3305]

I have no idea how they completed my bi so quick. All I know is that my background is clean but I'm sure that everyone else in this forum has a flawless background as well. I personally spoke to the investigator who was conducting my investigation today after he interviewed my supervisor, co-workers etc. and he informed me that he was done (interviews, credit check, academic verification etc.). He told me that he would be sending my file to DC tomorrow. I guess it just depends on the motivation of the investigator who is handling each individual case. That doesn't mean I wont sit in adjudication for 4 months though. So it looks like I will be floating in the same boat as everyone else...waiting for the final call ;) If I have learned anything throughout this process it is that no two people have the same experience.


how many locations have you lived in and how many jobs have you had? that can significantly reduce the time. I have had like 7-8 short term jobs. Mine has been going on for about 4 months.

[TopJag]

Did they happen to say why people go from being referred to best qualified then? Does that mean that the application was demoted? And if so I wonder for what reason. That just seems backwards to me because on the announcement it says that only those deemed best qualified would be contacted for interviews.

Hi Ricki223,

That was the e-mail answer I got from HR on the status. They answered in less than 24 hours. You might want to send a question to
p o s t i n g s @ i c. f b i. g o v (without the spacings).

I agree, the announcement clearly says "only applicants who are deemed best qualified will be notified to submit supplemental documentation".

TopJag

[Jedburgh II]

Did they happen to say why people go from being referred to best qualified then? Does that mean that the application was demoted? And if so I wonder for what reason. That just seems backwards to me because on the announcement it says that only those deemed best qualified would be contacted for interviews.Hi Ricki223,

That was the e-mail answer I got from HR on the status. They answered in less than 24 hours. You might want to send a question to
p o s t i n g s @ i c. f b i. g o v (without the spacings).

I agree, the announcement clearly says "only applicants who are deemed best qualified will be notified to submit supplemental documentation".

TopJag
Whatever HR or the announcement may say, all I care about are the actions taking place as the process moves forward. What actually happened was that after sitting at Referred to Selecting Official for 3 months, I was contacted for the interview 1 week after it changed to Best Qualified on quickhire. So, now I've gone through the interview, I've got my CO, the BI has begun, and my PSI/Poly is scheduled. It still says Best Qualified on quickhire. As long as the process continues to move forward, I'm not bothering to e-mail HR over the wording on the website.

Reading over the multiple old threads on the IA position, everyone should realize, that although there is a clear pattern as to the hiring process, there are also plenty of deviations from it as various posters move through the process. Don't get wrapped around the axle over it. Patience is a virtue.

[waitingindc]

I have no idea how they completed my bi so quick. All I know is that my background is clean but I'm sure that everyone else in this forum has a flawless background as well. I personally spoke to the investigator who was conducting my investigation today after he interviewed my supervisor, co-workers etc. and he informed me that he was done (interviews, credit check, academic verification etc.). He told me that he would be sending my file to DC tomorrow. I guess it just depends on the motivation of the investigator who is handling each individual case. That doesn't mean I wont sit in adjudication for 4 months though. So it looks like I will be floating in the same boat as everyone else...waiting for the final call ;) If I have learned anything throughout this process it is that no two people have the same experience.
Oh, I see. I hate to break it to you, but that is probably not the only investigator working on your case. I have been contacted by four different people in the past four months, each working on a different aspect of my BI. Each gave me the same line about, "well, I am pretty much done. I will be sending my report in at the end of this week. Everything looks good, so it shouldn't be too long now..."

So, let's hope that he was right that you are finished, but I know in my case that I an extremely clean background, yet am still waiting four months later. They say that BI's average 4-6 months for a reason...

[diablo3305]

Oh, I see. I hate to break it to you, but that is probably not the only investigator working on your case. I have been contacted by four different people in the past four months, each working on a different aspect of my BI. Each gave me the same line about, "well, I am pretty much done. I will be sending my report in at the end of this week. Everything looks good, so it shouldn't be too long now..."

So, let's hope that he was right that you are finished, but I know in my case that I an extremely clean background, yet am still waiting four months later. They say that BI's average 4-6 months for a reason...


same here, I know of 4 investigators on my case, there may be more. Most of my interviews were done in the first week and im going on 4 months soon. Waiting and waiting, eager to move and get in there, I hate my current job. I wish the days would go by faster.

[TopJag]

Whatever HR or the announcement may say, all I care about are the actions taking place as the process moves forward. What actually happened was that after sitting at Referred to Selecting Official for 3 months, I was contacted for the interview 1 week after it changed to Best Qualified on quickhire. So, now I've gone through the interview, I've got my CO, the BI has begun, and my PSI/Poly is scheduled. It still says Best Qualified on quickhire. As long as the process continues to move forward, I'm not bothering to e-mail HR over the wording on the website.

Reading over the multiple old threads on the IA position, everyone should realize, that although there is a clear pattern as to the hiring process, there are also plenty of deviations from it as various posters move through the process. Don't get wrapped around the axle over it. Patience is a virtue.

Jedburgh II,

It entirely depends on your position. You have progressed with the CO, BI, Poly etc, where as I (and others) are listed as best qualified and there has been no further action on our applications. It is easier to have patience when your application is making progress, much harder when there is no movement, especially when you are rated as best qualified. That is the reason for my query.

TopJag

[electra1978]

What happens if you start a new job after the BI has already started. Do you have to inform anyone?

[ricki223]

Jedburgh II,

It entirely depends on your position. You have progressed with the CO, BI, Poly etc, where as I (and others) are listed as best qualified and there has been no further action on our applications. It is easier to have patience when your application is making progress, much harder when there is no movement, especially when you are rated as best qualified. That is the reason for my query.

TopJag

Couldnt have said it any better myself.

[Gigio]

What happens if you start a new job after the BI has already started. Do you have to inform anyone?

Hmm... good question. I started a new job after my poly/psi/pee day. I didn't tell anyone. FBI HR knows now, since they had to negotiate a release date (Sept 17th) from my current employer. (I had already done that, but they had to do it officially.) No one seems to have minded so far. Come to think of it, I don't think I could have told anyone; I had no AC!

[Ellington]

What a long day! From 9am-3:30pm, I was at my FO completing the PSI, Polygraph (Passed), and Urinalysis. I am glad that now I have time to rest and put my feet up! I'm looking forwarding to hearing good news in the future.

[diablo3305]

What happens if you start a new job after the BI has already started. Do you have to inform anyone?


tell whatever contact you have at your FO about it.

[bad_timing]

Oh, I see. I hate to break it to you, but that is probably not the only investigator working on your case. I have been contacted by four different people in the past four months, each working on a different aspect of my BI. Each gave me the same line about, "well, I am pretty much done. I will be sending my report in at the end of this week. Everything looks good, so it shouldn't be too long now..."

So, let's hope that he was right that you are finished, but I know in my case that I an extremely clean background, yet am still waiting four months later. They say that BI's average 4-6 months for a reason...

Well whatever the case may be, I am glad that there is progress. As I stated before; now the real wait begins.

Diablo, I'm with you--I am NOT a huge fan of my current job either and the sheer possibility of my dream job with the FBI looming makes it even harder to "punch the clock" everyday.

[bad_timing]

how many locations have you lived in and how many jobs have you had? that can significantly reduce the time. I have had like 7-8 short term jobs. Mine has been going on for about 4 months.

I have only had two jobs previous to my current position right now. I have only lived in two locations (both in the same city). I have a security clearance (which I know does not have a great deal of relevance but does help a little), I live at home, and I am not married--obviously. Perhaps those things helped this investigator move quicker. As someone posted earlier, however, there will most likely be more than one investigator. Like everyone else in this forum, I am also learning as I go. :)

[anwalt]

same here, I know of 4 investigators on my case, there may be more. Most of my interviews were done in the first week and im going on 4 months soon. Waiting and waiting, eager to move and get in there, I hate my current job. I wish the days would go by faster.

Ditto. While I don't hate the current job -- today, anyway; last week, yeah -- the prospect of the IA position is driving me to distraction.

As far as the investigation goes, things got started about two months ago and multiple investigators are involved given the varied locales in which I've lived. Overseas, too, which probably complicates things significantly. For what it's worth, quickhire has listed my status has "PSIN" for some time now. Never did have a "best qualified" entry.

Cheers.

[electra1978]

What a long day! From 9am-3:30pm, I was at my FO completing the PSI, Polygraph (Passed), and Urinalysis. I am glad that now I have time to rest and put my feet up! I'm looking forwarding to hearing good news in the future.

That's awesome!! You must feel so relieved to have that all behind you and to know you passed the poly. I'm sure good news is on its way...

I can't wait to get all that done myself.. Of course the first step is to hear back from someone after my interview. ring phone, RING!! :)

[OhioLaw]

Hello. This is my first post because I just found this site a few days ago. I am really glad that I found this place bc like everyone else here, I am anxious to find out what is next in the process.
I had my interview this past Friday. It went well and I have not heard anything else yet.
I have a question as to what PSIN means bc I had that listed on my quickhire page. I thought it was personal securtiy interview, but the thing is that it is next to one of the grades that I am evidently ineligible for. And it has been there for a couple of months, way before I even interviewed.
Just to share my experience, I was referred to selecting official for a long time then switched to Best Qualifed. I got the call for the interview about 10 days after the switch to BQ, which seems to be what happens for the majority of you in here.

[electra1978]

Hello. This is my first post because I just found this site a few days ago. I am really glad that I found this place bc like everyone else here, I am anxious to find out what is next in the process.
I had my interview this past Friday. It went well and I have not heard anything else yet.
I have a question as to what PSIN means bc I had that listed on my quickhire page. I thought it was personal securtiy interview, but the thing is that it is next to one of the grades that I am evidently ineligible for. And it has been there for a couple of months, way before I even interviewed.
Just to share my experience, I was referred to selecting official for a long time then switched to Best Qualifed. I got the call for the interview about 10 days after the switch to BQ, which seems to be what happens for the majority of you in here.

Hi there! Welcome to the boards. Congrats on getting the interview. You and I are both waiting to hear back. I think I may have to wait until all interviews are conducted before I hear back.. What was your experience like?

[OhioLaw]

My experience was pretty good. I applied back in March. The interviewers were really helpful. The whole time they made it sound like I was already going on to the next phase, as though the interview was just part of the routine. They asked the same questions as others on here have mentioned. I only had difficulty with one of them bc it was sort of an oddball question prefaced like the scenario was commonplace.
I am currently an attorney and they believed that my background would be beneficial. It helped that one of them had also been an attorney prior to joining!
I just hate getting my hopes up, then waiting. I can't believe how excited I get over the possibily considering I will be taking a 65% paycut if it happens!!!

They told me I was the last of about 10 people to interview.

[TopJag]

Congrats OhioLaw,

I am also an attorney and have years of military intelligence experience. My status was also recently changed to "Best Qualified" for all grades GS 9-14, yet I have not heard a word. I hope something breaks soon.

YopJag

[OrangeAlum2003]

Congrats OhioLaw,

I am also an attorney and have years of military intelligence experience. My status was also recently changed to "Best Qualified" for all grades GS 9-14, yet I have not heard a word. I hope something breaks soon.

YopJag

Did you get your application in before the first cutoff date of March 31? I think they are interviewing in phases. It's hard to make sense of who gets called and who doesn't. You'd think that someone with a J.D. and intel exp. would be a shoe-in for an interview. Don't give up, because I thought I was dead in the water and had actually stopped viewing this board. Out of the blue I got a call. You just never know.

Jedburgh II,

You said that you've received a CO. I think you interviewed in the same FO two days before I. When did you get the CO. I have yet to receive anything official, though they did indicate that it was coming.

[OrangeAlum2003]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050727/pl_nm/security_fbi_dc

I just saw this article today (nothing that revealing in my opinion, but worth a read).

[TopJag]

Did you get your application in before the first cutoff date of March 31? I think they are interviewing in phases. It's hard to make sense of who gets called and who doesn't. You'd think that someone with a J.D. and intel exp. would be a shoe-in for an interview. Don't give up, because I thought I was dead in the water and had actually stopped viewing this board. Out of the blue I got a call. You just never know.

I applied on 18 March 05, and provided a phone number update on 25 May 05. I was about to give up because my application was stuck at "referred to qualifying official" forever. Then last week (Tuesday), it changed to "Best Qualified" for the GS 9-14 grades. I e-mailed the HR and they replied you must be "referred to qualifying official" to continue the process....huh? I have a call in to the HR. I hope they are interviwing in phases. If the interview cutoff is 31 Jul 05, then looks like I'm out of luck -- I really want to work Intel again vs the law.

Thanks for your advice.

TopJag

[electra1978]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050727/pl_nm/security_fbi_dc

I just saw this article today (nothing that revealing in my opinion, but worth a read).

Gee! It sounds like the Bureau is greatly understaffed... Hmmmm... I wonder where they could find stellar talent to help them out... :D

[electra1978]

My experience was pretty good. I applied back in March. The interviewers were really helpful. The whole time they made it sound like I was already going on to the next phase, as though the interview was just part of the routine. They asked the same questions as others on here have mentioned. I only had difficulty with one of them bc it was sort of an oddball question prefaced like the scenario was commonplace.
I am currently an attorney and they believed that my background would be beneficial. It helped that one of them had also been an attorney prior to joining!
I just hate getting my hopes up, then waiting. I can't believe how excited I get over the possibily considering I will be taking a 65% paycut if it happens!!!

They told me I was the last of about 10 people to interview.

I feel your pain! :) I had a similar experience in the interview room, and can't wait to get a call back. You know the saying: Good things come to those who wait. :)

[OhioLaw]

I feel your pain! :) I had a similar experience in the interview room, and can't wait to get a call back. You know the saying: Good things come to those who wait. :)
Did they ask you where you prefer to be put? I told them one specific location, then a geographic area (Southeast -Cincinnati on down to Jacksonville). Then I mentioned about 5 places I would prefer not to go to, which was funny bc they agreed with my list.

[atxtallguy]

Congrats OhioLaw,

I am also an attorney and have years of military intelligence experience. My status was also recently changed to "Best Qualified" for all grades GS 9-14, yet I have not heard a word. I hope something breaks soon.

YopJag


What branch of service were you, for how long and MOS? I'm sure Jedburgh could agree the Intel community is a small world.

[electra1978]

Did they ask you where you prefer to be put? I told them one specific location, then a geographic area (Southeast -Cincinnati on down to Jacksonville). Then I mentioned about 5 places I would prefer not to go to, which was funny bc they agreed with my list.

Yeah, they asked me for my top three choices, but I told them I'm pretty flexible as I'm single and have no real obligations to tie me down to one place or area. The funny thing was, it was almost like they were trying to convince me that I should take the job at my FO... Anyway, I told them though that I would rather not end up somewhere like Paducah, KY, and they laughed and said "We would never do that to you!" (no offense to anyone here from Paducah) :)

[OhioLaw]

Yeah, they asked me for my top three choices, but I told them I'm pretty flexible as I'm single and have no real obligations to tie me down to one place or area. The funny thing was, it was almost like they were trying to convince me that I should take the job at my FO... Anyway, I told them though that I would rather not end up somewhere like Paducah, KY, and they laughed and said "We would never do that to you!" (no offense to anyone here from Paducah) :)
Is there even a field office there? lol. I might not understand the locations then bc I thought it was only the 56 offices and not the little resident locations.
My number one choice was Knoxville, Tn. I can't imagine a lot of people wanting to go there, so maybe I have a shot. I think that most people would actually want to go to places like NY, Chicago, La, and places like that.

[electra1978]

Is there even a field office there? lol. I might not understand the locations then bc I thought it was only the 56 offices and not the little resident locations.
My number one choice was Knoxville, Tn. I can't imagine a lot of people wanting to go there, so maybe I have a shot. I think that most people would actually want to go to places like NY, Chicago, La, and places like that.

No, there isn't an office there, but I just put that out there in case the Bureau is thinking of opening one up in the near future. :) My top three were Boston, DC, and NY in that order... They kept reminding me that they had no power in where I would be stationed if I got the job, but they are all pretty big offices so I feel I may have a good chance... Really though, I would honestly go whereever they wanted me to if I was offered a job...

[bad_timing]

I am the same way. I would go to Alaska if they needed me to. My top three choices are Detroit, Chicago, and DC. I think Detroit is a real possibility for me because I have only heard from one other person that wanted to go there and it wasn't even their forst choice. Who knows, I'll take anything.

[OhioLaw]

Does anyone know what PSIN means? I heard that it refers to the security interview, but I think it might mean something else.

[TopJag]

INTERESTING e-mail I just got back from FBI HR to share:

Greetings,

This vacancy is currently under review and once selections are made all applicants will be notified through FBIjobs. You should check your vacancy status on a monthly basis for further details. Continue to monitor FBIjobs for future job opportunities.

This applies to applicants whose status states “best qualified” or “referred to selecting official”. If your status said “referred to selecting official” and now says “best qualified” your status is “referred to selecting official”.


For those applicants whose status states “PSIN”, the “PS” is an internal code we are using to distinguish between a grouping of applicants who have been reviewed and those who have not. The “IN” means that you are ineligible for this position (“IN”); therefore, if “PSIN” appears in your status, you are not being considered for this position and will not be referred.



Thanks for your interest in the FBI.

[OhioLaw]

That makes more sense then bc I had PSIN next to my gs11 level, but nothing else. I interviewed for the GS9 and 7 levels.

[OrangeAlum2003]

INTERESTING e-mail I just got back from FBI HR to share:

Greetings,

This vacancy is currently under review and once selections are made all applicants will be notified through FBIjobs. You should check your vacancy status on a monthly basis for further details. Continue to monitor FBIjobs for future job opportunities.

This applies to applicants whose status states “best qualified” or “referred to selecting official”. If your status said “referred to selecting official” and now says “best qualified” your status is “referred to selecting official”.


For those applicants whose status states “PSIN”, the “PS” is an internal code we are using to distinguish between a grouping of applicants who have been reviewed and those who have not. The “IN” means that you are ineligible for this position (“IN”); therefore, if “PSIN” appears in your status, you are not being considered for this position and will not be referred.



Thanks for your interest in the FBI.

Interesting, I'm sure most of us check our status more than once a month/day/hour/.....

Anyway, at least it appears as though they are trying to use FBIJOBS to communicate to the pool of applicants. The fact, however, that you need an HR person to tell you PSIN means is ridiculous. What's the point of posting it on the website if it's just an internal code used to identify applicants? That does the applicant no good.

[ProudDad]

The entire hiring process cries for uniformity! I'm still perplexed that after I interviewed for a another position the website refelcetd "Not Selected For this Position" but a week later I received a COE, and the webiste was never updated to reflect the change.

[electra1978]

The entire hiring process cries for uniformity! I'm still perplexed that after I interviewed for a another position the website refelcetd "Not Selected For this Position" but a week later I received a COE, and the webiste was never updated to reflect the change.

The system is definitely flawed, but I am comforted by the fact that most people on the inside support change and the improvement of the internal & external communication system. They seem to be as frustrated as we are, but at least we have these boards to keep us sane.

[OhioLaw]

The system is definitely flawed, but I am comforted by the fact that most people on the inside support change and the improvement of the internal & external communication system. They seem to be as frustrated as we are, but at least we have these boards to keep us sane.
I just remembered that the interviewers told me that there is a lot of pressure on them to get people pushed through the process at a fast rate. Then they said it could be anywhere from 2 months to a year, so back to square one.

[bad_timing]

A year?! ;) Say it isn't so...

[electra1978]

I just remembered that the interviewers told me that there is a lot of pressure on them to get people pushed through the process at a fast rate. Then they said it could be anywhere from 2 months to a year, so back to square one.

It's strange how the hiring process itself is not uniform. There have been people on the boards with family members overseas who got through everything in 4 months, and then there are those who have just graduated from college, never lived abroad and are facing a wait of 8 months and counting.

Another example: I never received a confirmation letter when my interview was scheduled although I know many people did.

Who knows... I guess what's most important is that the process is moving forward regardless...

[OhioLaw]

I have been wondering about why some people were interviewed in May, then June, and now July. Is it a qualification issue or is is a location issue? I believe it has more to do with certain field offices just being behind in the process, rather than certain applicants being more qualified for the position.

Of those of you that have been interviewed, were you interviewed at the field office closest to your home?

[OrangeAlum2003]

I have been wondering about why some people were interviewed in May, then June, and now July. Is it a qualification issue or is is a location issue? I believe it has more to do with certain field offices just being behind in the process, rather than certain applicants being more qualified for the position.

Of those of you that have been interviewed, were you interviewed at the field office closest to your home?

I believe that some may have applied to a previous vacancy announcement. I know that many had been interviewed at a hiring blitz in DC earlier in the year. It seems, though, that they are interviewing in phases, and the way they are classifying applicants seems peculiar.

[bad_timing]

I was interviewed in the FO near my current residence. I was told by Human Resources in Detroit that the plan was to have everyone on board by 1 October. I don't know how much water that holds and I do not want to cause an uproar. That could just mean that the Detroit FO wants everyone they interviewed on by October. Who knows though. We just need to remain hopeful.

[electra1978]

I have been wondering about why some people were interviewed in May, then June, and now July. Is it a qualification issue or is is a location issue? I believe it has more to do with certain field offices just being behind in the process, rather than certain applicants being more qualified for the position.

Of those of you that have been interviewed, were you interviewed at the field office closest to your home?

I imagine it has more to do with when people applied rather than location. They seemed to be interviewing people in batches. I applied March 31st so I think that's why I was called to interview well after some others.

I was interviewed at my city's FO, which is conveniently located just down the street from me. :D

[OhioLaw]

I imagine it has more to do with when people applied rather than location. They seemed to be interviewing people in batches. I applied March 31st so I think that's why I was called to interview well after some others.

I was interviewed at my city's FO, which is conveniently located just down the street from me. :D
So you are thinking that each FO location interviewed some people in May, June, and July? I got the impression that the group I was with was the first group of interviews done at my local FO and it was just last week. That is what made me think it was just a locality thing, meaning certain FO are ahead of others in the process. :o

[OrangeAlum2003]

So you are thinking that each FO location interviewed some people in May, June, and July? I got the impression that the group I was with was the first group of interviews done at my local FO and it was just last week. That is what made me think it was just a locality thing, meaning certain FO are ahead of others in the process. :o

I know at my FO, they had already interviewed at least one if not more batches of applicants before I was called. I know this because before I was called for an interview I had contacted my local FO, and she said that they had just finished interviewing a group of candidates and my name wasn't on the list. They receive a list of candidates from HQ to interview, and they call and set it up. Luckily, my name did appear the next time around, and I was brought in for an interview.

[electra1978]

So you are thinking that each FO location interviewed some people in May, June, and July? I got the impression that the group I was with was the first group of interviews done at my local FO and it was just last week. That is what made me think it was just a locality thing, meaning certain FO are ahead of others in the process. :o

I remember calling HR at my FO about a month or two ago and asking if interviews for announcement FO-2005-0022 had started, and they told me yes, but didn't give me an exact timeframe. When I got the call to schedule an interview, I was given the choice of the 25,26,28, and 29. That may have been phase 2 of the interview process....

[systemsguy05]

I remember calling HR at my FO about a month or two ago and asking if interviews for announcement FO-2005-0022 had started, and they told me yes, but didn't give me an exact timeframe. When I got the call to schedule an interview, I was given the choice of the 25,26,28, and 29. That may have been phase 2 of the interview process....

I basically had the same options (same FO, after all), but I had applied almost immediately after the vacancy was listed. I also applied to every listing from before, at least dating back to my graduation last year (and received emails back on them saying they were cancelled), but maybe some people did get interviews from earlier listings. Either way, my interview is tomorrow, I haven't been posting because I've been filling out the necessary paperwork, but now everything seems all set. It sounds like most people have left their interviews feeling very positive about how they went, hopefully I'll feel the same way by tomorrow afternoon :D

[OrangeAlum2003]

I basically had the same options (same FO, after all), but I had applied almost immediately after the vacancy was listed. I also applied to every listing from before, at least dating back to my graduation last year (and received emails back on them saying they were cancelled), but maybe some people did get interviews from earlier listings. Either way, my interview is tomorrow, I haven't been posting because I've been filling out the necessary paperwork, but now everything seems all set. It sounds like most people have left their interviews feeling very positive about how they went, hopefully I'll feel the same way by tomorrow afternoon :D

You will. Just relax and be yourself. Given that the questions are all standardized, however, I would try to catalogue a list of examples from your professional and academic life to apply. You'll get a dozen questions of the sort, "Please give me an example of a time where you were faced with a difficult challenge and you changed your approach to solve the problem." If you can easily think of times in your professional and academic experience where you solved problems or dealt with difficult issues, you'll be able to answer the interview questions more easily.

[electra1978]

I basically had the same options (same FO, after all), but I had applied almost immediately after the vacancy was listed. I also applied to every listing from before, at least dating back to my graduation last year (and received emails back on them saying they were cancelled), but maybe some people did get interviews from earlier listings. Either way, my interview is tomorrow, I haven't been posting because I've been filling out the necessary paperwork, but now everything seems all set. It sounds like most people have left their interviews feeling very positive about how they went, hopefully I'll feel the same way by tomorrow afternoon :D

Hey there! I'm sure you will do fine. I wonder if the same people that interviewed me will also interview you... Do let us know how everything goes!!! Good luck!!!

[OhioLaw]

You will. Just relax and be yourself. Given that the questions are all standardized, however, I would try to catalogue a list of examples from your professional and academic life to apply. You'll get a dozen questions of the sort, "Please give me an example of a time where you were faced with a difficult challenge and you changed your approach to solve the problem." If you can easily think of times in your professional and academic experience where you solved problems or dealt with difficult issues, you'll be able to answer the interview questions more easily.
My interviewers were like Question #3, "Well you pretty much already answered that one. Let's move onto #4"

[darkstar]

well, just got back from my interview... the panel was about like i expected, neither too friendly nor overly impersonal... they did apologize for the "pat" nature of the questions they asked... i think it went ok... not great, but not badly either... for some reason, every thought in my head decided to run and hide for the first 10 minutes, but overall i think i rebounded ok... they gave no indication whether or not they thought i would continue with the process... if i don't hear anything w/in the next couple of week i'll give them a call... seemed to work for some other people.. :)

[OhioLaw]

well, just got back from my interview... the panel was about like i expected, neither too friendly nor overly impersonal... they did apologize for the "pat" nature of the questions they asked... i think it went ok... not great, but not badly either... for some reason, every thought in my head decided to run and hide for the first 10 minutes, but overall i think i rebounded ok... they gave no indication whether or not they thought i would continue with the process... if i don't hear anything w/in the next couple of week i'll give them a call... seemed to work for some other people.. :)
Congratulations on even making it this far though.
I had one question that I messed up on too, I think it is pretty normal.

[electra1978]

well, just got back from my interview... the panel was about like i expected, neither too friendly nor overly impersonal... they did apologize for the "pat" nature of the questions they asked... i think it went ok... not great, but not badly either... for some reason, every thought in my head decided to run and hide for the first 10 minutes, but overall i think i rebounded ok... they gave no indication whether or not they thought i would continue with the process... if i don't hear anything w/in the next couple of week i'll give them a call... seemed to work for some other people.. :)

Hey there! Congrats on getting through the interview!! I'm sure you did fine... I was nervous too for the first couple of minutes as evidenced by my babbling response to the first question, but they were furiously writing on their sheets so I must have said something worthwhile.

Did you have three people? Men or women?

I am hoping (wishful thinking maybe) that I'll hear back sometime next week. Otherwise I will probably call my contact in a couple weeks even just to thank her for being so helpful...

[darkstar]

Congratulations on even making it this far though.
I had one question that I messed up on too, I think it is pretty normal.

i hope so... i felt more relaxed as the interview progressed, which i assume is also normal.... having no idea what standard i'm being compared against (like everyone else here) always leaves room for doubt, though... in the end, i feel like i represented myself well and i'm trying not to read too much in to the panel's lack of an indication as to whether or not i'll continue in the process...

[darkstar]

Hey there! Congrats on getting through the interview!! I'm sure you did fine... I was nervous too for the first couple of minutes as evidenced by my babbling response to the first question, but they were furiously writing on their sheets so I must have said something worthwhile.

Did you have three people? Men or women?

I am hoping (wishful thinking maybe) that I'll hear back sometime next week. Otherwise I will probably call my contact in a couple weeks even just to thank her for being so helpful...

congrats to you as well... my panel was also writing furiously the entire time... i think part of what made me uncomfortable was feeling it necessary to stop talking long enough for them to catch up... kind of interrupted my train of thought (i mentioned at one point that i lost my train of thought and one of the panel members read me the last couple of sentences she wrote so that i could finish what i was saying)...

i had three people, 2 female and 1 male.. the male is a supervisory special agent (the other 2 didn't tell me what they do but i assume they're IA's) who rembered me from when i interviewed last fall... can't tell if that was a plus or a minus...

i think 2 weeks is enough time to contact HR and request a status update... i checked fbijobs as soon as i got home... don't know what i was expecting to see, but it's still the same as it's been for the last 3 weeks or so...

FYI, don't know if this has been addressed in previous threads, but i took a writing sample thinking that it might help them in their decision making... they seemed a little taken aback and admitted that they didn't know what the proceedure is regarding accepting paperwork that isn't one of the requested forms... after asking HR they thanked me for bringing it in but stated only requested paperwork (86, 979, dd214) would be forwarded to HQ.... just a head's up...

[OhioLaw]

I only remember 1 of my 3 interviewers even having a pen. He wrote a few things down, but everyone was looking at me while I spoke. My interview was recorded and I had to sit in front of a little recording machine. Did you guys have to do the same thing?

[achefswife]

I only remember 1 of my 3 interviewers even having a pen. He wrote a few things down, but everyone was looking at me while I spoke. My interview was recorded and I had to sit in front of a little recording machine. Did you guys have to do the same thing?

RECORDED!!!!! Now that's the first time I've heard that mentioned. My interviewers were writing like busy bees. And I was actully glad that they were just in case I looked away or talked with my hands. I really don't think they could keep up with me.... Most of the time they said "well we see you answered the next question with your last response so lets move on."

[OrangeAlum2003]

RECORDED!!!!! Now that's the first time I've heard that mentioned. My interviewers were writing like busy bees. And I was actully glad that they were just in case I looked away or talked with my hands. I really don't think they could keep up with me.... Most of the time they said "well we see you answered the next question with your last response so lets move on."

Recorded??? That's funny. Were they actually going to listen to it again? Who has time to do that :o

Despite a lot of redundancy and crossover, my panelists, unfortunately, did not pass over any questions. I had to trudge painfully through each one. To answer one question, I used my graduate thesis as the example. One gentleman then asked me, "Was the outcome successful to your project?" And I said, "Well, I don't think they would have given me my degree if they didn't consider it successful, so I guess I would characterize it as a success." Each panelist appeared to be taking copious notes, though my answers certainly couldn't have been that compelling. I imagine the poly isn't any more heartwarming than the interview.

[OhioLaw]

RECORDED!!!!! Now that's the first time I've heard that mentioned. My interviewers were writing like busy bees. And I was actully glad that they were just in case I looked away or talked with my hands. I really don't think they could keep up with me.... Most of the time they said "well we see you answered the next question with your last response so lets move on."
Yep, that is what I was trying to say with post #82. My interview really didn't even last that long bc they kept telling me I had already answered the question. I bet the whole deal lasted 45-50 minutes. They told me a lot about what Quantico was going to be like and said that if I passed the Ohio bar, then I would have no problem with the testing there. I honestly believe that the interviews are only there to make sure you are what you say you are. As long as you respond to the questions you will make it on to the next round.

[TampaBarb]

INTERESTING e-mail I just got back from FBI HR to share:

Greetings,

This vacancy is currently under review and once selections are made all applicants will be notified through FBIjobs. You should check your vacancy status on a monthly basis for further details. Continue to monitor FBIjobs for future job opportunities.

This applies to applicants whose status states “best qualified” or “referred to selecting official”. If your status said “referred to selecting official” and now says “best qualified” your status is “referred to selecting official”.


For those applicants whose status states “PSIN”, the “PS” is an internal code we are using to distinguish between a grouping of applicants who have been reviewed and those who have not. The “IN” means that you are ineligible for this position (“IN”); therefore, if “PSIN” appears in your status, you are not being considered for this position and will not be referred.



Thanks for your interest in the FBI.

Oh God, this must mean I won't get called in...it's already the end of July and I'm stuck at Referred to Selecting Official. I have to stop lurking on the board :(

I am just SO worried that when I got a call from my local FO that there was a miscommunication and I was supposed to be called in for an interview. She hadn't known that I'd already applied, and was calling to tell me to apply...how she heard of me outside of my application I have no idea.

But on another note...there at least was once an FO in Paducah, KY...my grandfather was an SA working out of it (much to his chagrin, he was a NYer) and my mother was born there :)

[darkstar]

I only remember 1 of my 3 interviewers even having a pen. He wrote a few things down, but everyone was looking at me while I spoke. My interview was recorded and I had to sit in front of a little recording machine. Did you guys have to do the same thing?

if mine was recorded i didn't know about it, b/c i didn't see a recording device and they didn't say mention that recording was a possibility... my panel was so busy writing that during the time they were taking notes i could have been gesturing wildly and making faces and i don't think they would have picked up on it... kind of makes me think that my first few minutes of "uncomfortable" responses may not be given much weight... they were so busy trying to jot down the substance of my answers (at least i hope that's what they were writing) that i don't think they were able to focus too much on my delivery.... oh, well... it's done now, not much i can do about it...

[darkstar]

I honestly believe that the interviews are only there to make sure you are what you say you are. As long as you respond to the questions you will make it on to the next round.

guess we're about to find out... :)

[OhioLaw]

guess we're about to find out... :)
In 14 months :D

[darkstar]

In 14 months :D

crap, i hope not... hopefully more like 14 days.... at least that's how long i'm giving HR to get back w/ me one way or the other before i take it upon myself to give them a call...

[BuMan]

Yep, that is what I was trying to say with post #82. My interview really didn't even last that long bc they kept telling me I had already answered the question. I bet the whole deal lasted 45-50 minutes. They told me a lot about what Quantico was going to be like and said that if I passed the Ohio bar, then I would have no problem with the testing there. I honestly believe that the interviews are only there to make sure you are what you say you are. As long as you respond to the questions you will make it on to the next round.

As one who has reviewed a number of applications, I can flat out tell you that a number of people don't make it through the interview for reasons having nothing to do with not answering the questions. There's a reason for the questions and more than just your answer is considered when deciding whether or not you pass through the interview stage.

If the interview panel didn't matter, they wouldn't have it. I have heard feedback from interviews that doomed candidates that included: "Unrealistic expectations of the job," "Negative attitude," and, my personal favorite, "I wouldn't want to work with the candidate." When one person responds that they wouldn't want to work with the candidate, it's survivable. When all three do, a candidate is doomed. You're being considered for your ability to think on your feet for the questions, the content of your response, your attitude as expressed during the interview, and your overall personality. One big suggestion - don't walk into an interview and say, flat out, "I'm just putting in for this until I feel ready to apply for an agent position." You're not what the Bureau wants/needs for an IA.

Recording is optional, not mandatory. If it's done, it will be stated at the outset.

Also, to the poster who remarked about Paducah, KY. That was probably a resident agency rather than a field office. A RA is a component of a field office, which is headed by a SAC or ADIC. Generally, the field offices are aligned on the basis of federal court districts.

[OhioLaw]

As one who has reviewed a number of applications, I can flat out tell you that a number of people don't make it through the interview for reasons having nothing to do with not answering the questions. There's a reason for the questions and more than just your answer is considered when deciding whether or not you pass through the interview stage.

If the interview panel didn't matter, they wouldn't have it. I have heard feedback from interviews that doomed candidates that included: "Unrealistic expectations of the job," "Negative attitude," and, my personal favorite, "I wouldn't want to work with the candidate." When one person responds that they wouldn't want to work with the candidate, it's survivable. When all three do, a candidate is doomed. You're being considered for your ability to think on your feet for the questions, the content of your response, your attitude as expressed during the interview, and your overall personality. One big suggestion - don't walk into an interview and say, flat out, "I'm just putting in for this until I feel ready to apply for an agent position." You're not what the Bureau wants/needs for an IA.

Recording is optional, not mandatory. If it's done, it will be stated at the outset.

Also, to the poster who remarked about Paducah, KY. That was probably a resident agency rather than a field office. A RA is a component of a field office, which is headed by a SAC or ADIC. Generally, the field offices are aligned on the basis of federal court districts.
I agree and I don't think anyone said the interview didn't matter. When I made the comment about it being more of a formaility than anything, it was assuming the candidate had logical responses and didn't come off as a goofball that nobody would want to work with. I think is the case in almost any interview bc nobody wants to work with a goof.
As far as me being recorded in my interview, they never actually came out and said they were recording me. They did have me sitting in front of a recording device with a little microphone. The main guy hit the record button right before we began the interview, so perhaps he thought it was obvious to me, therefore no need to tell me what was happening.

[darkstar]

As one who has reviewed a number of applications, I can flat out tell you that a number of people don't make it through the interview for reasons having nothing to do with not answering the questions. There's a reason for the questions and more than just your answer is considered when deciding whether or not you pass through the interview stage.

If the interview panel didn't matter, they wouldn't have it. I have heard feedback from interviews that doomed candidates that included: "Unrealistic expectations of the job," "Negative attitude," and, my personal favorite, "I wouldn't want to work with the candidate." When one person responds that they wouldn't want to work with the candidate, it's survivable. When all three do, a candidate is doomed. You're being considered for your ability to think on your feet for the questions, the content of your response, your attitude as expressed during the interview, and your overall personality. One big suggestion - don't walk into an interview and say, flat out, "I'm just putting in for this until I feel ready to apply for an agent position." You're not what the Bureau wants/needs for an IA.



buman,
based on your experience is it common practice for interviewers to allow for "nerves" (for lack of a better term) during the first few minutes of an interview or are good candidates expected to respond like they the process is no big deal?

[BuMan]

buman,
based on your experience is it common practice for interviewers to allow for "nerves" (for lack of a better term) during the first few minutes of an interview or are good candidates expected to respond like they the process is no big deal?

Everyone is expected to be a bit nervous going through a job interview. People typically adjust to the situation and get a little more comfortable through the process, so that's completely natural. Nothing to worry about.

[electra1978]

As one who has reviewed a number of applications, I can flat out tell you that a number of people don't make it through the interview for reasons having nothing to do with not answering the questions. There's a reason for the questions and more than just your answer is considered when deciding whether or not you pass through the interview stage.

If the interview panel didn't matter, they wouldn't have it. I have heard feedback from interviews that doomed candidates that included: "Unrealistic expectations of the job," "Negative attitude," and, my personal favorite, "I wouldn't want to work with the candidate." When one person responds that they wouldn't want to work with the candidate, it's survivable. When all three do, a candidate is doomed. You're being considered for your ability to think on your feet for the questions, the content of your response, your attitude as expressed during the interview, and your overall personality. One big suggestion - don't walk into an interview and say, flat out, "I'm just putting in for this until I feel ready to apply for an agent position." You're not what the Bureau wants/needs for an IA.

Recording is optional, not mandatory. If it's done, it will be stated at the outset.

Also, to the poster who remarked about Paducah, KY. That was probably a resident agency rather than a field office. A RA is a component of a field office, which is headed by a SAC or ADIC. Generally, the field offices are aligned on the basis of federal court districts.

As usual sound advice BuMan. My panel was composed of three supervisory IAs, and we spent considerable time talking about my future plans. I told them I definitely see myself as a career IA, and that led to more discussion about the benefits of staying with the Bureau vs. shifting to another agency later on (funny enough, no one had anything positive to say about shifting to the CIA). It was very enlightening...

[OhioLaw]

As usual sound advice BuMan. My panel was composed of three supervisory IAs, and we spent considerable time talking about my future plans. I told them I definitely see myself as a career IA, and that led to more discussion about the benefits of staying with the Bureau vs. shifting to another agency later on (funny enough, no one had anything positive to say about shifting to the CIA). It was very enlightening...I agree with you too. I can't believe people would go into an IA interview and start talking about a SA position. Some people just don't understand the interview process.

[bad_timing]

As usual sound advice BuMan. My panel was composed of three supervisory IAs, and we spent considerable time talking about my future plans. I told them I definitely see myself as a career IA, and that led to more discussion about the benefits of staying with the Bureau vs. shifting to another agency later on (funny enough, no one had anything positive to say about shifting to the CIA). It was very enlightening...

I think that had something to do with my CO as well. I informed the panel that I wanted to be a career I/A and they seemed very pleased with that response. Although when I went in for my PSI and Poly both the examiner and the SA conducting my interview told me on more than one occasion while I was there that I should seriously consider becoming an SA. I politely declined their advice because I really have no desire to be an SA. Did anyone else have a similar experience?

I want to be the guy that provides the SA's with the information to "kick" down the door. I don't have any real desire to do the kicking myself.

[electra1978]

I think that had something to do with my CO as well. I informed the panel that I wanted to be a career I/A and they seemed very pleased with that response. Although when I went in for my PSI and Poly both the examiner and the SA conducting my interview told me on more than one occasion while I was there that I should seriously consider becoming an SA. I politely declined their advice because I really have no desire to be an SA. Did anyone else have a similar experience?

I want to be the guy that provides the SA's with the information to "kick" down the door. I don't have any real desire to do the kicking myself.

Excellent way to put it! Same here, although I've been told I have a mean kick. :D

[ricki223]

Does anyone know if IA's ever go out and do field work with the SA's?

[electra1978]

Does anyone know if IA's ever go out and do field work with the SA's?

During my interview I was told that Operation Specialist IAs in particular work closely with SAs on assignment and are sometimes sent out into the field with them.

[darkstar]

During my interview I was told that Operation Specialist IAs in particular work closely with SAs on assignment and are sometimes sent out into the field with them.

did you list ops as a preferred area?

[electra1978]

did you list ops as a preferred area?

I basically indicated I could work in any of the three fields, but I really like the strategic nature of all-source and the fast-paced characteristics of being a reports officer....

[systemsguy05]

Wow...go away for a little bit, and suddenly there is PLENTY of activity on this board to catch up on!!

Had my interview this morning, wanted to get on the board after that but walked into a storm at the office ;)

It went...ok, I suppose. Though reading the discussion on this board has helped a lot - thanks, BuMan, for reminding us that we are expected to be a little nervous, that was something I had kinda lost sight of leading up to today.

I know a few people alluded to this a few days ago...but the major thing the interview accomplished for me was making me want the job that much more. (Hopefully for the interviewers it accomplished making me looking like an impressive candidate, haha) I'll be ecstatic to hear either way within 14 days, and from what they said it might even be a realistic possibility.

Went out for Chinese food for lunch...fortune cookie even said "Good news is on the way". You will all think I'm completely ridiculous for posting that, but hey, I'll take what I can get :D

[electra1978]

Wow...go away for a little bit, and suddenly there is PLENTY of activity on this board to catch up on!!

Had my interview this morning, wanted to get on the board after that but walked into a storm at the office ;)

It went...ok, I suppose. Though reading the discussion on this board has helped a lot - thanks, BuMan, for reminding us that we are expected to be a little nervous, that was something I had kinda lost sight of leading up to today.

I know a few people alluded to this a few days ago...but the major thing the interview accomplished for me was making me want the job that much more. (Hopefully for the interviewers it accomplished making me looking like an impressive candidate, haha) I'll be ecstatic to hear either way within 14 days, and from what they said it might even be a realistic possibility.

Went out for Chinese food for lunch...fortune cookie even said "Good news is on the way". You will all think I'm completely ridiculous for posting that, but hey, I'll take what I can get :D

Hey! Congrats on completing your interview! Was your experience similar to what you've read on the boards so far? Even with the standardized questions, it seems everyone has walked away with a different experience. I completely forgot to ask when I could expect to hear back. The lead interviewer told me that they have to conduct a caucus of all the candidates before any decisions could be made, but didn't give me a timeframe of how long that would take.

[OhioLaw]

Anyone know about how many IAs they are looking to bring on? I thought it was something like 400, but I wondered if anyone knew for sure.

[OrangeAlum2003]

Anyone know about how many IAs they are looking to bring on? I thought it was something like 400, but I wondered if anyone knew for sure.

I heard the number was 880 for fiscal year 2005, not sure if that's correct.

[BuMan]

Does anyone know if IA's ever go out and do field work with the SA's?

Absolutely - in the past few days in our course, we've heard from IAs who provide tactical on-scene intel support to their division's SWAT team (including driving the truck), an IA who (with another IA) did an undercover in a WCC investigation, two IAs who regularly do prison interviews to gather intelligence on gang intelligence, etc. The DI has a vision of having IAs work with SAs on interviews of subjects and sources and there are many opportunities to get out of the office, at least in the field divisions.

[achefswife]

I think that had something to do with my CO as well. I informed the panel that I wanted to be a career I/A and they seemed very pleased with that response. Although when I went in for my PSI and Poly both the examiner and the SA conducting my interview told me on more than one occasion while I was there that I should seriously consider becoming an SA. I politely declined their advice because I really have no desire to be an SA. Did anyone else have a similar experience?

I want to be the guy that provides the SA's with the information to "kick" down the door. I don't have any real desire to do the kicking myself.

My career goal were also mention in my interviewed. I think I blew them away when I said that I have know intentions of not teaching at some level and that I therefore plan to eventually teach some of the 7 week training classes at Quanitico. They went into much detail about how that was possible and this... and that..... We stayed on that noted point for quite some time in the interview. I also stated that I would love to do short training programs(a few days or a week) at other field offices.

[OhioLaw]

I think that had something to do with my CO as well. I informed the panel that I wanted to be a career I/A and they seemed very pleased with that response. Although when I went in for my PSI and Poly both the examiner and the SA conducting my interview told me on more than one occasion while I was there that I should seriously consider becoming an SA. I politely declined their advice because I really have no desire to be an SA. Did anyone else have a similar experience?

I want to be the guy that provides the SA's with the information to "kick" down the door. I don't have any real desire to do the kicking myself.

They told me that I had a good SA background as well and would be good for that position. I just said that I would like to help out in any role, but that I believed my background has prepared me for the IA role.

[OhioLaw]

How long did all of your interviews last? I thought mine was short as it was only 45-55 minutes total. :)

[LAGGARD]

Does anyone know who does the credit check for the FBI? Is it just one or multiple companies?

[OhioLaw]

Does anyone know who does the credit check for the FBI? Is it just one or multiple companies?
I had a mark on my credit report from a medical bill that my insurance was supposed to pay and didn't. So I had to pay it and now it says paid on my credit report. I just attached the paper saying it has been paid to my 86 form. I brought it up at the interview and the guys said that medical bills aren't really what they are concerned about and they worry more about federally backed student loans. That plus the fact that it has been paid leaves me with no worries.

[darkstar]

How long did all of your interviews last? I thought mine was short as it was only 45-55 minutes total. :)

mine was about the same, around 45-50 minutes... not to say that i felt like they were just going through the motions, but they made sure that the interview didn't take any longer than necessary... they gave me as much time as i needed to answer the questions and when i was done they moved on... not many follow up questions or requests for clarification... probably just a function of having to complete so many of what amounts to the same basic interview in a relatively short period of time (i would guess)... i'm hoping (like so many of us here) that the main purpose of the interview is to weed out potential undesirables and that the panel is able to do this w/ a relatively small amount of time w/ each candidate... thus, if the candiate doesn't do or say anything that would cast himself/herself in a negative light then the interview is basically a matter of routine paperwork... could be wrong on that one, though... :)

[LAGGARD]

I had a mark on my credit report from a medical bill that my insurance was supposed to pay and didn't. So I had to pay it and now it says paid on my credit report. I just attached the paper saying it has been paid to my 86 form. I brought it up at the interview and the guys said that medical bills aren't really what they are concerned about and they worry more about federally backed student loans. That plus the fact that it has been paid leaves me with no worries.

I am not sure about others but i believe most students have backed up student loans; unless you come from a wealthy family. I do have some backed up student loans but I am still in school. Hopefully, they will look at that loosely. I was told that some applicants have $100G in student loans which i expect to be the case if you are in Law or Medical. I would agree that if someone only gets a BS but owes that amount is a concern. I would even say that if you are a PhD student, it would be normal to have $50G or so in loan. Wouldn't you agree?

[tdstolz]

Dear Laggard,

Deferred student loans are just that--deferred. No problem. I'm not sure what you mean by "backed up," though. Defaulted loans are a problem, however.

[OhioLaw]

I am not sure about others but i believe most students have backed up student loans; unless you come from a wealthy family. I do have some backed up student loans but I am still in school. Hopefully, they will look at that loosely. I was told that some applicants have $100G in student loans which i expect to be the case if you are in Law or Medical. I would agree that if someone only gets a BS but owes that amount is a concern. I would even say that if you are a PhD student, it would be normal to have $50G or so in loan. Wouldn't you agree?
I am sure they mean loans that you have not paid for when they have come due. Lol, I am about 100k in debt from law school loans alone. Thankfully I didn't have any in undergrad. My fiance and I have a combined $225k debt alone and she had $0 from undergrad as well. We both consolidated over a 30 year period, so it is not as bad as it sounds.

[atxtallguy]

I am not sure about others but i believe most students have backed up student loans; unless you come from a wealthy family. I do have some backed up student loans but I am still in school. Hopefully, they will look at that loosely. I was told that some applicants have $100G in student loans which i expect to be the case if you are in Law or Medical. I would agree that if someone only gets a BS but owes that amount is a concern. I would even say that if you are a PhD student, it would be normal to have $50G or so in loan. Wouldn't you agree?

It would've been nice to come from a wealthy family. I'm glad I do not owe a single dime on loans for school, but the trade off was to put my tail on the line for five years with Uncle Sam.

I think it would be safe to say student loans are almost in line with having a mortgage. There could be a large loan, but there is a plan to pay it off over time.

There was a solider in one of my past units that had his clearance suspended due to financial reasons on his part. He was in so much debt he basically became a security risk. He had to go to debt counseling, etc. and I think he eventually was reinstated.

[Kristin]

I understand that the term "Eligible" denotes qualified. However, as a status on FBIjobs what does this mean in the hiring process? Did any of you guys ever receive this status while you were in the process?

Also, does Public Non-Status applications get process last. In other words after public status and internal applications?

[OhioLaw]

I understand that the term "Eligible" denotes qualified. However, as a status on FBIjobs what does this mean in the hiring process? Did any of you guys ever receive this status while you were in the process?

Also, does Public Non-Status applications get process last. In other words after public status and internal applications?

I applied to 3 grades and have the following terms listed on my application. I interviewed for the position about 9 days ago.

GS/7 Eligible
GS/9 Best Qualified
GS/11 PSIN (Which means not qualifed)

I would think that if I was among the best qualified GS/9s, then the same would be true for the GS/7 level. When I first logged onto quickhire and seen that it said Best Qualified, I didn't get excited bc I thought it mean that of my 3 grades I chose, I was best qualifed for GS/9.

[waitingindc]

I am not sure about others but i believe most students have backed up student loans; unless you come from a wealthy family. I do have some backed up student loans but I am still in school. Hopefully, they will look at that loosely. I was told that some applicants have $100G in student loans which i expect to be the case if you are in Law or Medical. I would agree that if someone only gets a BS but owes that amount is a concern. I would even say that if you are a PhD student, it would be normal to have $50G or so in loan. Wouldn't you agree?
With my B.A. and M.A. I have racked up $64,000, and that it is with most of my undergraduate degree covered by scholarships...

[tdstolz]

Hello, everyone.

I'm curious to know if there is any official word on where the FBI's hiring of IAs stands? 880 for FY 2005, correct? Is the hiring going well?

Optimistically yours,
TDS

[OhioLaw]

Hello, everyone.

I'm curious to know if there is any official word on where the FBI's hiring of IAs stands? 880 for FY 2005, correct? Is the hiring going well?

Optimistically yours,
TDS
I read that they have hired about 400 or so in 2005 so far. I think they are pushing to get the other 400 in by Oct 1.

[bad_timing]

Ohio-

Where did you read that statistic?

[OhioLaw]

Ohio-

Where did you read that statistic?
I got that from here: http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress05/mueller030805.htm

Specifically this: "We have made substantial progress towards expanding and strengthening our intelligence workforce. In FY 2005, we received $30 million from Congress for recruitment and retention authorities. As a result of these and other hiring efforts, we have received overwhelming interest in the Intelligence Analyst position. A one-week vacancy announcement advertised in February 2005 yielded over 2,218 applicants. We have hired 476 Intelligence Analysts through February and have a hiring objective of 880 by the end of the year. The FY 2006 budget request includes resources to continue these recruitment and retention initiatives."

:) I don't know if that means 880 on top of the 476 already hired or just the 476 plus 404 more to equal 880. Hopefully it is 880 more!

[bad_timing]

Curious, I wonder if the 476 number pertains to CO's or to actual FO's?

Thanks for the insight!!

[achefswife]

Curious, I wonder if the 476 number pertains to CO's or to actual FO's?

Thanks for the insight!!

Now isn't that something to make you say HMMMMMMMM! I hope it's not for CO.

[OhioLaw]

Now isn't that something to make you say HMMMMMMMM! I hope it's not for CO.
Are you guys talking CO as in Conditional Offers and FO as in Final Offer? I don't think it is FO as in Field Office.

[Kristin]

I applied to 3 grades and have the following terms listed on my application. I interviewed for the position about 9 days ago.

GS/7 Eligible
GS/9 Best Qualified
GS/11 PSIN (Which means not qualifed)

I would think that if I was among the best qualified GS/9s, then the same would be true for the GS/7 level. When I first logged onto quickhire and seen that it said Best Qualified, I didn't get excited bc I thought it mean that of my 3 grades I chose, I was best qualifed for GS/9.

Thank you so much for the information. I have not received "PSIN" for any of the grades that I applied for but I also haven't received a phone call either.

I am glad that you received an interview and I hope that you are successful when you get into the FBI. Maybe I will receive a phone call from them soon. I beginning to lose hope though.

[OhioLaw]

Thank you so much for the information. I have not received "PSIN" for any of the grades that I applied for but I also haven't received a phone call either.

I am glad that you received an interview and I hope that you are successful when you get into the FBI. Maybe I will receive a phone call from them soon. I beginning to lose hope though.
Good luck! I know what you mean about losing hope. I think about the job all the time, but it could go either way. I wish the process was faster.

[ricki223]

Thank you so much for the information. I have not received "PSIN" for any of the grades that I applied for but I also haven't received a phone call either.

I am glad that you received an interview and I hope that you are successful when you get into the FBI. Maybe I will receive a phone call from them soon. I beginning to lose hope though.

I too am losing hope. I recieved PSIN for grade 7 because I accidently answered no to the mobility question so that was an automatic disqualifier. I've been best qualified for grade 9 for about a month now with no phone call. I'm wondering if my unrelated background (sports medicine/athletic training) is a factor. But I also think that I probably wouldn't have made it this far if it were that major of a factor. Anyway, maybe we'll both get a call eventually. But I'm feeling your pain. ;)

[bad_timing]

I too am losing hope. I recieved PSIN for grade 7 because I accidently answered no to the mobility question so that was an automatic disqualifier. I've been best qualified for grade 9 for about a month now with no phone call. I'm wondering if my unrelated background (sports medicine/athletic training) is a factor. But I also think that I probably wouldn't have made it this far if it were that major of a factor. Anyway, maybe we'll both get a call eventually. But I'm feeling your pain. ;)

Rick-

Don't worry about your academic background. It does play a role but it is not an overly determining factor like it appears to be for the SA's. I don't even have a Masters Degree and just about everyone else on this board has at least that. The FBI is looking for well rounded people with diverse backgrounds so don't throw yourself under the bus just yet. Continue to hope. Remember this entire process is strange and different for everyone so it is very difficult for anyone to compare notes. Heck, I am through the entire process (poly, psi, bi, etc) except for the drug test...explain that. Keep the faith!

[OhioLaw]

Rick-

Don't worry about your academic background. It does play a role but it is not an overly determining factor like it appears to be for the SA's. I don't even have a Masters Degree and just about everyone else on this board has at least that. The FBI is looking for well rounded people with diverse backgrounds so don't throw yourself under the bus just yet. Continue to hope. Remember this entire process is strange and different for everyone so it is very difficult for anyone to compare notes. Heck, I am through the entire process (poly, psi, bi, etc) except for the drug test...explain that. Keep the faith!
I think it is a field office location thing and not a qualifications thing. By that I mean that some field offices are just further along in the process than others. That is why some people have the entire background, psi, etc. done and are just waiting around. They will probably wait until they have about 500 or so qualified people, then start shipping them out. That is what I am hoping at least :p
I think the numbers the FBI is looking for mean that anyone that makes it to an interview has a good shot of getting in.

[bad_timing]

The FBI I/A posting is up on USAJOBS again. Either the FBI is coming up short on their goal of 880 for this year and they still need more people or these postings are designed to get people geared up for next year. The plot thickens. :o

[OhioLaw]

The FBI I/A posting is up on USAJOBS again. Either the FBI is coming up short on their goal of 880 for this year and they still need more people or these postings are designed to get people geared up for next year. The plot thickens. :o
I looked for it and did not find it. I really don't understand this whole process. Seems like they have quite a few very qualified people just waiting around as it is.

[bad_timing]

I looked for it and did not find it. I really don't understand this whole process. Seems like they have quite a few very qualified people just waiting around as it is.

...must have been a glitch because I just checked it again and now it's gone. Go figure!!

[electra1978]

...must have been a glitch because I just checked it again and now it's gone. Go figure!!


It's been on USAJobs the whole time. If you search for FO-2005-0022, it'll come up.

Anyone heard back yet after their interview recently??

[systemsguy05]

It's been on USAJobs the whole time. If you search for FO-2005-0022, it'll come up.

Anyone heard back yet after their interview recently??

Nope, haven't heard back yet...then again, it was just this past Friday, so I can't really expect anything so soon anyway!!

Here's hoping that the more optimistic thoughts regarding the projected hiring numbers end up being true. If they're still looking for a lot of analysts, obviously that helps all of our odds :D

I'm curious as to what people's backgrounds are. A lot of Master's degrees or higher?? I have a Bachelors in Chemistry, but I decided to go in a different direction after graduating last year, so I've been doing systems work for about a year now. Helps make me fairly well-rounded I suppose, but hard to say I'm much of an "expert" at anything either. Then again, I'm sure the FBI is looking for both people who are rather experienced in their fields and people who have tried a couple different things but thus have less experience in anything.

[bad_timing]

I have a B.S. in Secondary Education and I am certified to teach History and Geography in the Great Lakes State. Currently, I work for the DoD.

[OhioLaw]

I have a B.A. in History and a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) in Law. Something funny about the quickhire process is that it seems to think that a J.D. can be obtained in 2 years, when it is actually 3 year program.

[OrangeAlum2003]

Nope, haven't heard back yet...then again, it was just this past Friday, so I can't really expect anything so soon anyway!!

Here's hoping that the more optimistic thoughts regarding the projected hiring numbers end up being true. If they're still looking for a lot of analysts, obviously that helps all of our odds :D

I'm curious as to what people's backgrounds are. A lot of Master's degrees or higher?? I have a Bachelors in Chemistry, but I decided to go in a different direction after graduating last year, so I've been doing systems work for about a year now. Helps make me fairly well-rounded I suppose, but hard to say I'm much of an "expert" at anything either. Then again, I'm sure the FBI is looking for both people who are rather experienced in their fields and people who have tried a couple different things but thus have less experience in anything.

I have a B.A. in Geography and an M.A. in International Relations. I've been working in corporate real estate/facilities management for the last year and a half (go figure) :o

[Jedburgh II]

I have just over 15 years of operational experience as an Army HUMINT Collector and Intelligence Analyst, most of it working with SF in the Mid-East (I speak Arabic and Turkish fluently, and can stumble along in Kurdish). Along with all the expected Military Intelligence courses and professional development, I've also trained in Crisis Negotiation with the FBI and Explosives Investigation with BATF.

[Gigio]

I have a Bachelors in Chemistry, but I decided to go in a different direction after graduating last year, so I've been doing systems work for about a year now. Helps make me fairly well-rounded I suppose, but hard to say I'm much of an "expert" at anything either.

I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. B.S. in Biology, M.A. in Writing, and 2 years in Latin America, which resulted in decent Spanish skills but not what I'd consider fluency. My guess is they are looking for people who have demonstrated an ability and willingness to learn; for some it may manifest in expertise in a specific area and for others, a broad range of experience.

The way I look at it is that my range of education and cultural experiences will help me "connect the dots" in a different way than another person. Such diversity in an IA workforce would seem ideal. Just my .02.

[electra1978]

I have a B.A. in Journalism, almost 5 years of work experience in journalism and as a Communications Consultant for a USAID project, M.A. in Integrated Marketing Communications, speak Arabic and French, and spent considerable time in the Middle East and Europe where I acquired firsthand experience in Int'l Relations and Security Studies.

I like how we are all diverse... It's almost like we are all pieces to the large jigsaw puzzle that is the FBI. :)

[diablo3305]

B.S in Information Technology, with a minor in Psychology
Working on a M.S. in Forensic Computing with a certificate in Terrorism Studies
about 3 years of work experience in IT Support

I think thats about it. Still waiting on my FO...waiting and waiting.

[bad_timing]

I have just over 15 years of operational experience as an Army HUMINT Collector and Intelligence Analyst, most of it working with SF in the Mid-East (I speak Arabic and Turkish fluently, and can stumble along in Kurdish). Along with all the expected Military Intelligence courses and professional development, I've also trained in Crisis Negotiation with the FBI and Explosives Investigation with BATF.

Jed-

It would almost seem like you are prepped to be an ops officer for the CIA. Alias anyone!! :)

I would assume you are probably in line for a GS 13 or 14?

[waitingindc]

Nope, haven't heard back yet...then again, it was just this past Friday, so I can't really expect anything so soon anyway!!

Here's hoping that the more optimistic thoughts regarding the projected hiring numbers end up being true. If they're still looking for a lot of analysts, obviously that helps all of our odds :D

I'm curious as to what people's backgrounds are. A lot of Master's degrees or higher?? I have a Bachelors in Chemistry, but I decided to go in a different direction after graduating last year, so I've been doing systems work for about a year now. Helps make me fairly well-rounded I suppose, but hard to say I'm much of an "expert" at anything either. Then again, I'm sure the FBI is looking for both people who are rather experienced in their fields and people who have tried a couple different things but thus have less experience in anything.
B.A. in Asian Studies
M.A. in National Security Studies
currently work as a Research Associate working on Asian regional security issues and proliferation issues

Interview/Poly/PSI/CO March 2005
BI Began April 2005
August 2005-still waiting

[ricki223]

I've got my B.S. in Exercise/Health Sciences with a concentration in athletic training. I've got a Masters in Higher Educational Administration with a concentration in athletics administration. The only overseas travel I've had is when I lived in Africa when I was really young. I've worked for a sports medicine clinic for four the past four years.

[OhioLaw]

Has anyone from these boards actually been hired? It seems like we have about 7 people or so that have been interviewed and then stuck in the 3P and BI phase. Any of you actually know of anyone that has been hired and started to work? We all seem to be stuck for the time being. ;) :o

[Gigio]

Has anyone from these boards actually been hired? It seems like we have about 7 people or so that have been interviewed and then stuck in the 3P and BI phase. Any of you actually know of anyone that has been hired and started to work? We all seem to be stuck for the time being. ;) :o

I've been hired but haven't started yet.

[bad_timing]

Has anyone from these boards actually been hired? It seems like we have about 7 people or so that have been interviewed and then stuck in the 3P and BI phase. Any of you actually know of anyone that has been hired and started to work? We all seem to be stuck for the time being. ;) :o

Ohio-

Perhaps I missed it but where are you in the process?

[Jedburgh II]

Jed-

It would almost seem like you are prepped to be an ops officer for the CIA.
I'm retiring from the Army and going for the FBI IA position because I don't want to be an operator in that sense anymore. I love my job, and its given me lots of great opportunities - but I've spent years away from the family because of the mission. I'm just lucky my wife is a very supportive person and understanding of the job. The type of TDY associated with work in the Bureau IA position is absolutely minimal in comparison.

Moving is not a problem. Working long hours or shift is not an issue. But being away from my wife and daughter for frequent deployments ranging in length from 6 to 18 months is not what I'm looking to get right back into.
I would assume you are probably in line for a GS 13 or 14?
It looks like I'm going in at the GS-12 level. I don't have a college degree. I've racked up quite a few credits over the years, but never completed a degree due to mission requirements. Over the years, I've trained and supervised plenty of young troops (who themselves have degrees) in the nuances of HUMINT collection and analysis- but that is beside the point, as far as entry at GS-13 or above goes on the Fed side.

[OhioLaw]

Ohio-

Perhaps I missed it but where are you in the process?
I had my interview about 10 days ago. It seemed to go well, but I guess you never really know. One of my interviewers was a former attorney and he gave me the impression that I made it to the next phase, yet I have not received a call. They told me that I would hopefully hear from them within 2 weeks, but not to hold them to that because the process can drag on sometimes.

I am the law director and a Domestic Relations Magistrate here in Cincinnati. I am also currently doing contract work for a class action case, so I am hitting around 85-95 hours a week currently ;)

[OrangeAlum2003]

Has anyone from these boards actually been hired? It seems like we have about 7 people or so that have been interviewed and then stuck in the 3P and BI phase. Any of you actually know of anyone that has been hired and started to work? We all seem to be stuck for the time being. ;) :o

There's a guy who's alias is "sigepuofu" who got hired and started work at HQ. You can find a bunch of his posts. Other than current IA's who post and those of us in waiting, I don't remember another individual who made it all the way through so far.

[OrangeAlum2003]

I'm retiring from the Army and going for the FBI IA position because I don't want to be an operator in that sense anymore. I love my job, and its given me lots of great opportunities - but I've spent years away from the family because of the mission. I'm just lucky my wife is a very supportive person and understanding of the job. The type of TDY associated with work in the Bureau IA position is absolutely minimal in comparison.

Moving is not a problem. Working long hours or shift is not an issue. But being away from my wife and daughter for frequent deployments ranging in length from 6 to 18 months is not what I'm looking to get right back into.

It looks like I'm going in at the GS-12 level. I don't have a college degree. I've racked up quite a few credits over the years, but never completed a degree due to mission requirements. Over the years, I've trained and supervised plenty of young troops (who themselves have degrees) in the nuances of HUMINT collection and analysis- but that is beside the point, as far as entry at GS-13 or above goes on the Fed side.

Jedburgh,

When did you receive your CO? I interviewed two days after you but haven't heard much so far. A woman from HR alluded to the fact that a CO was coming because she called me about the SF-86, but an official CO has not been issued yet. Poly is scheduled for Aug. 19.

[Kristin]

I have a B.A. in Political Science, Cognate in Business and Professional Studies, and an A.A. in History. I have worked in a variety of jobs...... History Projects for Museums, Lobbyist, Campaign Consultant, Medical Field, and other areas. I would like to think that I am well-rounded but I am not sure the FBI thinks so seeing that my status is still.....
GS07- Eligible
GS09- Application Received

I should praise God that I have not received the "boo-hoo" "PSIN". However, I am very young and just graduated from college in December 2004 so they may be looking at that. But like one of you (I believe OhioLaw) just said it may be a regional thing. I live in the South and everything here goes slow.

I still wonder why my application process is taking so much longer than everyone else though. Considering I applied March 21.

[waitingindc]

Alright, I have now taken to making up excuses for calling my AC. Today it was, oh, I realized that I never received a written CO, just one over the phone. Is there any way that I could get something in writing? This was followed by, by the way, anything new on my BI? Still listed as pending? Oh, alright. Thanks...

This was while my internal dialogue went something like, "dear god, let this woman tell me that I can start next week, or at least that my background is finished..."

[OrangeAlum2003]

Of those of you who have completed degrees in security studies, international relations, poli. sci. etc. I'm curious as to where you went to school. As for me, you can probably tell by my alias. I always like to see who everyone roots for in football season.

[bad_timing]

Currently working on a M.C. from American Military University with a focus in what else...Intelligence Studies. No football team though.

[anwalt]

B.A., History/Govt. & Politics
M.S., International Relations (security studies specialization)
J.D. w/certificate in International, Foreign, & Comparative Law

Currently practice law in private practive. Lived in Europe for 25+ years.

CO at GS-11 for HQ posting in early June and BI since then.

[electra1978]

B.A., History/Govt. & Politics
M.S., International Relations (security studies specialization)
J.D. w/certificate in International, Foreign, & Comparative Law

Currently practice law in private practive. Lived in Europe for 25+ years.

CO at GS-11 for HQ posting in early June and BI since then.

Having lived overseas for a lengthy period, did they give you any indication of how much more time that would add to your BI? That's about as much time as I've spent overseas...

[tdstolz]

Hello, everyone.

I have noticed over the past couple of weeks at least that a lot of the people here have interviewed for IA positions relatively recently. May I assume these are for FY 2005 hirings? If so, is the FBI able to do BIs so quickly--basically between now and mid- to late-September (i.e., just before FY 2006)?

I am nearly 4 months into my BI (I got my CO in mid-April) and simply waiting for my EOD. Things have gone fairly quickly, although I am anxious to get the call (of course)! I think the FBI's standard timeframe for BIs is 6 to 9 months; I know a number of IAs who have gotten in between 3 and 4 months, so I am very hopeful. (Any day now, right?) But with interviews and COs in June and even July, is the FBI really fast-tracking the BIs for FY 2005 hirings? And since I'm well into my own BI, can I (and others who have been in background a similar amount of time) expect the good word truly any day now?

Cautiously optimistic,
TDS

[anwalt]

Having lived overseas for a lengthy period, did they give you any indication of how much more time that would add to your BI? That's about as much time as I've spent overseas...

Never got info on how long they expected it to take. 99% of my overseas time was in Germany and in just a few locations so, hopefully, it won't bog me down for too long . . . naahhh -- it'll take forever. On the other hand, based on feedback from friends and former colleagues, my stateside BI interviews had to have been wrapped up within 3 weeks of starting the process.

[LAGGARD]

B.A., History/Govt. & Politics
M.S., International Relations (security studies specialization)
J.D. w/certificate in International, Foreign, & Comparative Law

Currently practice law in private practive. Lived in Europe for 25+ years.

CO at GS-11 for HQ posting in early June and BI since then.

Out of curiosity, why do you want a position? With your education, isn't it better to be in the industrial world?

[anwalt]

Hello, everyone.

I have noticed over the past couple of weeks at least that a lot of the people here have interviewed for IA positions relatively recently. May I assume these are for FY 2005 hirings? If so, is the FBI able to do BIs so quickly--basically between now and mid- to late-September (i.e., just before FY 2006)?

I am nearly 4 months into my BI (I got my CO in mid-April) and simply waiting for my EOD. Things have gone fairly quickly, although I am anxious to get the call (of course)! I think the FBI's standard timeframe for BIs is 6 to 9 months; I know a number of IAs who have gotten in between 3 and 4 months, so I am very hopeful. (Any day now, right?) But with interviews and COs in June and even July, is the FBI really fast-tracking the BIs for FY 2005 hirings? And since I'm well into my own BI, can I (and others who have been in background a similar amount of time) expect the good word truly any day now?

Cautiously optimistic,
TDS

I think it was Ohiolaw who posted an article which described the present turnaround time for BIs at under 3 months. Can't say whether that was in the context of IA BIs.

Becoming an acronym-meister here.

[anwalt]

Out of curiosity, why do you want a position? With your education, isn't it better to be in the industrial world?

Stated positively, the prospect of doing something of unquestionable gravity and importance, combined with the fact that said work is fascinating/intrigueing/etc. has got me jazzed and motivated.

Current work, stated negatively: billable hours suck, [most] clients are a drag, the job is turning my mind into jello, etc.

[tdstolz]

Dear Anwalt,

Do you happen to recall the link Ohiolaw provided? The one about the turn-around time for BIs, I mean. I'll check the thread, but if you, Ohiolaw, or anyone else can post the link, I would really appreciate it. Thanks!

TDS

[CPD-Dispatcher]

And another thread that has grown. Like the others we don't like to see the threads get to large, so others don't have to spend days searching the thread for info.


Thus this thread is now closed,


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