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Bravo8
09-11-2001, 09:02
I'm sure some of you have to be watching this too.....but it seems that two planes have crashed into the World Trade Center, one of the planes was reported to have been hijacked out of Boston. One of the towers just collapsed.

And another plane crashed into the Pentagon. That hasn't been confirmed yet...but a fire is confirmed at the Pentagon and witnesses reported seeing a plane go down in the vicinity.

Birky
09-11-2001, 09:13
What the hell. I was asleep and got woken up I am at a loss for words. Somebody is gonna have to pay for this.

Bravo8
09-11-2001, 09:18
They confirmed that three planes have been hijacked. Two commercial planes out of Boston, and a small two engine plane from down south.

Any word on injuries due to the collapse?? There had to be Cops, FF, and EMTs down there.

Bravo8
09-11-2001, 09:34
The second tower just collapsed and they confirmed that a car bomb exploded at the State Dept.

We need to respond quickly and extremely harshly. F*ck this touchy feely foreign policy. Tell Afghanistan to turn over Bin Laden, or we turn their country into a missile testing ground.:bazooka: :bazooka:

Bravo8
09-11-2001, 09:55
Another crash outside of Pittsburgh??? That one I might be going to.

13 in 13 days??? I didn't hear about that. Enlighten me??

Ridgeback
09-11-2001, 10:14
Amen Bravo8.

All the police, fire and rescue people around the buildings...the people trapped. It just makes me sick.

OPEN SEASON on terriorists.

Everyone be safe.

CustomsCop
09-11-2001, 10:17
Bravo8,

Be prepared to go to Somerset County. I just got called into work.. All, military,cops,ff,emts.. PLEASE BE SAFE

Bravo8
09-11-2001, 10:25
Yeah...I'm getting ready. I belong to a Search and Rescue group that sometimes works alongside PA-TF1, so I expect to get called out if it gets worse (God Forbid).

You be extra careful down there in Philly, brother. Philly would be a good target. Be safe.

Brian

P.S. I'm signing off now. I just got off of a midnight shift, then this shit happened. I'm going to try to get some sleep. Be safe out there.......ya never know what might happen during your shift.

SecretNY
09-11-2001, 11:11
I heard it, I saw it, and now I'm hearing reports of bomb threats all over the city. It's bad.

Good luck to all my brothers and sisters out there. Stay safe!
Secret

CustomsCop
09-11-2001, 11:13
Amtrak NE corridor is shut down.

d8771
09-11-2001, 11:56
This makes me want to be in the military soooooo badly I can taste it.

margherita_2315
09-11-2001, 12:24
:mad: How I so much wish I was out there as an LEO!! I wish I could do something to help, donate blood- anything. I live in San Diego- so I guess donating blood would be unrealistic. How I wish the Corps would take be back! I'm ready, if only they would let me back in! I'd leave everything here behind- wife, job, LE hopes- everything and anything to give a helping hand if worst comes to worst! God bless, and everyone please be safe out there!! Gotta go and call a recruiter now- bye!

JDM
09-11-2001, 12:27
simply put - there has never been, in the history of the world, anything more dangerous than a MOTIVATED American soldier.


God help those responsible for this cowardly attack.

d8771
09-11-2001, 12:58
Sign me up.

copboy
09-11-2001, 13:23
What a horrible day this has become. I never thought I would see something so horrible. Watching those buildings fall was the worst thing I have ever seen. I just think of all the people in the planes also. Does anyone know if Pappi is okay? Many brave people went into that building and some have not come out. I hope he was not one of them.

FutureFed
09-11-2001, 15:05
As my baby brother would put it: "I hope we get old school on these motherf**kers":mad:

Raven231
09-11-2001, 15:11
I couldn't believe what I saw and heard on the TV today. The attack on the US is a scary thought (reality now).

I truly feel sorry for those people that will and have lost thir lives do to the cowardly attack that happened. All I can say is that whoever did this has just signed the death warrant of a country.

Tis a good thing (I hope) that a republican is in office and hopefully justice will be served but it still won't make up for the thousands and thousands of lives that will be lost. I was watching the news about the first plane hitting the World Trade Center this morning and watched as the second hit the other tower. It was a empty moment as you can watch something in awe and feel so helpless at the same time.

To all who are out there taking care of the aftermath I pray for your safety and may the wrath that is deserved by those responsible be handed out 1000 fold.:mad: :t-down: :mad: :bazooka:

aceattaq33
09-11-2001, 15:26
my thoughts and prayers are with all the families of those who were involved in today's horrible act of violence against our country. it made me sick to my stomach watching the twin towers in flames and watching a second plane flying into it, and people jumping to their deaths from stories above, it made me cry...may god be with you all:(

Surlyfritz209
09-11-2001, 15:36
Whoever is responsible for this unGodly act of destruction, needs to be dealt with quickly, and without prejudice. In other words, he, she, it, whoever it is, needs to have a gun put to their head, and shot. This is simply unbelievable. How the hell did these people get on the planes, much less take them over? I assume that they needed weapons to hijack those things. I don't know if this was an act of war, but war may be necessary to put the kibosh on these sons of bitches. God have mercy on them, because I sure as hell won't!

JSavage
09-11-2001, 16:03
God be with the families and civil service workers on the scene. They will need every prayer.

God also be with my brethren, the soldiers of the Special Operations Command. I have full faith that they will be tasked with destroying this putrid, cowardly group of sons-of-bitches who have chosen to bring this terror upon our people. They are nothing but a bunch of fucking mindless followers, willing to give their lives to ensure the death of thousands; all of them puppets to a modern day psychopath. I only wish I could burn them alive just to watch them scream for mercy from Alah. I would then extinguish the fire and let them suffer in pain.

I'm angry..........

TTRAIN222
09-11-2001, 16:50
My heart goes out to anyone at all who has been effected by this evil act. I especially pray for those officers, firefighters, emts, who have put their lives on the line to save others. May God protect the lives of those who protect us. :crying2: :crying2:
Those Palestinian hypocrites who are thanking God for what happened are obviously calling for His wrath. May the United States Military be safe in their execution of justice.

Psalms 140

Deliver me, O LORD, from evil men; preserve me from violent men, who plan evil things in their heart, and stir up wars continually. They make their tongue sharp as a serpent's, and under their lips is the poison of vipers. Guard me, O LORD, from the hands of the wicked; preserve me from violent men, who have planned to trip up my feet. Arrogant men have hidden a trap for me, and with cords they have spread a net, by the wayside they have set snares for me. I say to the LORD, Thou art my God; give ear to the voice of my supplications, O LORD! O LORD, my Lord, my strong deliverer, thou hast covered my head in the day of battle. Grant not, O LORD, the desires of the wicked; do not further his evil plot! Those who surround me lift up their head, let the mischief of their lips overwhelm them! Let burning coals fall upon them! Let them be cast into pits, no more to rise! Let not the slanderer be established in the land; let evil hunt down the violent man speedily! I know that the LORD maintains the cause of the afflicted, and executes justice for the needy. Surely the righteous shall give thanks to thy name; the upright shall dwell in thy presence.

God Bless You All,
Steve

UN_Cop
09-11-2001, 16:58
To fight a terrorist you have to use terrorist tactics. A prior Marine and my brothers should understnad, "Seek out, close with, and destory the target".

Future I agree will your brother; however, it is time to get mid-evil on there ass.

Angelo
09-11-2001, 16:58
I pray for those who were killed, for those who were injured or for those who have lost. I wish those the best who are out their busting their ass to help and doing their jobs. I stand behind our government 100%, and I think its great to see everyone put aside their differences, to say hey "no one comes into our house and pushes us around!!!!"

May God watch over all those who have loss and suffered today.

Dave710
09-11-2001, 17:06
I sure hope PapiMike is OK, If he is we probably wont hear from him in a while because he will be so busy... My heart goes out to all and their families. It something like this that makes me motivated enough to drop all my college courses and visit the recruiter. Im 18 and pumped to go give who ever did this a taste of the Marine Corps.

dani13
09-11-2001, 17:59
I have been watching the news since 9am this morning and am sickened by what I witnessed.
A news channel just reported that when the 1st tower collasped there was over 200 fire fighters and LEO's in there. None have been found.
A man frrom my home town was also just on. He was on the 24th floor He said after the intitial explosion he went to open a door and saw the plane crashing thru the floors and burning bodies following.
The footage of people hanging out of the tower windows, then the building collaspsing is really disturbing.
My daughter said at school today they were al called into the gym and told the news. She said a 6tth gr girl jumped screaming that her mom worked there and she needed a phone. My daughter age 11, is shooken.
I pray for all involved and their families. I also hope that our fellow members (pappimike, GID, NYS, ect...) are all OK!

jkh206@hotmail.com
09-11-2001, 18:16
I live in hudson county, nj...approx 11-15 miles away from manhatten...I attent St. Peters College and at about 9am or so we heard the plane crash....all I remember is a loud boom....it was sick and it was scary and to hear that they got the pentagon...OMG...I could not believe that...this is much worse than pearl harbor and we lost a lot of people...it is a sad day in american history...that MF'er finally got what he wanted and that was the WTC to fall to the ground....I am a firefighter in Secaucus, NJ and we were on standbye just in case we had to cover for Jersey City or any other area that had gone into NYC....We should go over there and incinerate those f**kers....I am furious and was crushed to hear all of this....this is supposed to be the land of democracy and the land of the free and home of the brave....we gotta do something....over 100+ cops and firefighters from lower manhatten are missing...my company and I are looking to goto NYC to help in the search and rescue if they ask for volunteers.....I am appalled and I feel justice should be brought quick but not swift...let them suffer....:mad:

Jason22
09-11-2001, 18:22
My Heart goes out to all those victims of this horendous act. I have been listening and watching since 9 am when I first heard the news and I continue to be shocked. God help the victims and the families of this tragedy. Best Wishes to everybody and anyone who will be involved.

JAY

Mongo
09-11-2001, 18:26
God help us all in this time of great need. America.....Stand Tall.

gcc123
09-11-2001, 18:38
WHAT IS REALLY DISTURBING IS SEEING THE PEOPLE JUMP OUT THE WINDOWS OF THE 40TH FLOOR, AND PLUNGE TO THEIR DEATH. BEFORE I VENT ABOUT THIS WHOLE SITUATION (AND BELEIEVE ME I WILL), I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO PRAY FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE FAMILY, AND FRIENDS INVOLVED IN THIS SAD COWARDLY TERRORIST ACT! I LIVE ONLY 45 MINUTES AWAY FROM THIS INCIDENT, AND I HAVE FRIENDS WHO ARE IN THE NYPD, AND FRIENDS AND FAMILY WHO WORK CLOSE BY! ARE THEY OK? I DON'T KNOW!!! BUT I PRAY FOR THEM, AND I PRAY FOR EVERYBODY DOWN THERE. ONE THING I DO KNOW NOW IS THAT ALTHOUGH NYPD MAY HAVE A FEW CROOKED OFFICERS WHO BOOZE TO MUCH, BUT OVERALL THEY ARE BY FAR THE BRAVEST INDVIDUALS I HAVE SEEN, ALONG WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, HOSPITAL STAFF...ETC THEY SHOULD ALL BE CONDEMED FOR THEIR BRAVERY, AND PERSERVERANCE.

THIS WHOLE SITUATION CAN BE VIEWED AS PEARL HARBORII IS IT OVER? WHO KNOWS!! IT LOOKS LIKE A MOVIE, I WATCH CNN, OR MSNBC AND I FEEL LIKE I'M WATCHING A MOVIE, THE VIDEO FOOTAGE, THEN PICTURES, IT'S SCARY HOW REAL ALL THIS IS!! THEY SHOWED THE FOOTAGE OF THE 2ND PLAIN CRASHING INTO THE BUILDING A FULL SPEED, AND IT'S MIND BOGGILING!! AND NOW THERE IS NO MORE TWIN TOWERS IN THE SKI LINE OF NYC. IT IS JUST A BLANK EMPTY SPACE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY!!!! WHAT WILL TOMORROW BRING, OR THE 1 YEAR ANNIVERSARY? THIS WILL DEFINELTY BE IN THE HISTORY BOOKS, AND WILL BE A TRAGIC MOMENT LEFT IN OUR MINDS FOREVER. IT IS ONE THAT WE WILL EXPALIN TO ARE CHILDREN, AND ARE GRANCHILDREN! I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY IT'S UNCOMPREHENSIBLE!

NOW I CAN'T PHATHOM HOW THE FU*K WE CAN LET THIS HAPPEN. WHEN I WALK THROUGH A METAL DETECTOR I GET INTERROGATED BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN MY POCKET!! SO HOW THE FU*K DO THESE SCUMBAGS HIJACK NOT 1 BUT 4, YES 4 PLANES, WITH GUNS, AND KNIVES!!! PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME HOW THE FU*K DOES IT HAPPEN!!! HOW? ALL I KNOW IS THAT THIS COUNTRY BETTER NOT TAKE THIS LYING DOWN. FIND THESE RAT BASTARDS THE PLANNED THIS AND MAKE AN EXAMPLE OUT OF THEM. THIS IS ENOUGH, BETWEEN SCHOOL SHOOTINGS, Mc VEIGH, THE 1993 BOMBING, THE BOMBINGS IN AFRICA IN U.S. BUILDINGS!! IT'S GOT TO STOP. AND IT'S GOT TO STOP NOW. WHO EVER HAS TO DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO, TO MAKE IT END HAS TO STEP UP, AND SHOW THE AMERICAN BRASS OF HTIS COUNTRY. WE TALK LIKE WE ARE SO POWERFUL, AND READY, BUT NOW WHOEVER DID THIS CAUGHT US WITH ARE PANTS AROUND OUR ANKLES, AND THEY HAVE US BY THE BALLS!! SO LET'S TALK THE TALK, AND BRING JUSTICE, AND REDEMPTION!! ON A LAST NOTE PAPIMIKE, AND WHOEVER ELSE IS A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD, I HOPE YOU ARE SAFE, AND MY PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU, AS THEY ARE WITH EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THIS TRAGEDY!
:mad:

aceattaq33
09-11-2001, 18:54
i live about 15 minutes away from where this happened in new jersey, i could see the clouds of smoke from my house and hear the sirens just continuously ringing, i have been watching the tv since 9 am since this happened, and i count my blessings because i believe i have an angel watching out for me as i was supposed to go down to the twin towers this morning and i decided against it. it could have been me...i know many nypd and nyfd people, and now they just gave an estimation of 200 firefighters and 80 police officers missing and presumed dead, do i know if any of the cops and firemen that i know, if they are okay, no i don't,

i have friends and family who work at the wtc, and thank god, they are all okay, they were able to get out, one of my closest friends arrived at work the exact moment that the second plane went into tower 2, all she saw was ny cops telling her to run, that they are being attacked, she is haunted by the things she saw today, it is like something out of a movie and unfortunately it is not, the people that jumped out as a last attempt to save themselves, i can only sit back and cry, when the towers collapsed, none of us can imagine being there, body parts flying and debris, i can only pray that we get justice for this, i refuse to allow anyone to get away with this coward act against the city and country that i live and love in.........may god be with those who are trapped and still alive, may you return to your families safely

Bro5
09-11-2001, 19:13
I am sure everyone will eventually comment on this so I will go ahead and add my .02. I have tremendous pride in our country and I bleed red, white, and blue. A former Marine who if they would let me re-gain my status back if they call up my old reserve unit I would drive there right now and throw my cammies on and step on a plane headed to Afghanistan. I would like to say what I would do with these terrorists but I am afraid some of you would think I am some sort of sick bastard but I would go mid-evel on them. Screw the carpet bombings once we find out who did this, let them see the brothers and sisters of the American Armed Forces roll down their city streets in an M1A1 battle tank, American Flag waving tall!! Let them watch us us as we take aim on their Hospitals, schools, and businesses where their innocent people go to work everyday and watch as rounds are fired down range. I am very angry!!! The amount of adrenaline flowing through my veins right now is only equalled to the day I breached the minefields in the deserts of Kuwait!! This might be cheesy, but I think it needs to be said because this is a major wake up call for all Americans. God bless those who have passed, and may God be with those dispatched there now. but mostly God Bless America!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

dan707
09-11-2001, 20:54
I currently work for verizon and early in the am hundreds of us will be in the area to help get comunications up to all the ppl there that need em including all temporary hospital like areas throught the city. My prayers go out to all the familes involved in todays incident.

five-oh
09-11-2001, 21:03
The saddness and anger I feel in my heart now is overwhelming. One of the sickest things I saw on TV today were the people, including women and children, on (I think) the West Bank cheering and celebrating the attacks on the US. The US has always taken care to minimize civilian casualties in any military operation. F--k 'em now. Target their f-en schools, the hospitals, the day care, see how they like it.

I pray America acts swiftly and strongly. This is not a time for diplomacy, this is war.

And for the most important of all-- The EMS, Fire, and Police who rushed to the scene, without regard for their own safety, to help others to safety. God be with their families. God be with us all.

gcc123
09-11-2001, 21:30
POLICEHAS JUST APPREHENDED A VAN FULL OF EXPLOSIVES ON IT'S WAY TO THE G.W BRIDGE. THANK GOD!! NYPD IS DOING A GOOD JOB!!!

Tampa_#63
09-11-2001, 23:56
First, let me offer my deepest sympathies to all the victims and there families on this most cowardly act. I pray for you all, and especially the police and firefighters in Manhatten dealing with this awful tragedy.

It is time to take the kid gloves off. I don't give a d*#m about world opinion. A little atom splitting should be the response once these cowardly scumbags are identified. No mercy! We need to turn them and the country harboring them into a glass factory and a parking lot.

Bravo8
09-12-2001, 01:31
I just heard that the van they apprehended did not have any explosives on it, but they are being held for questioning.

I'm ready to go kick some terrorist ass. :shoot2: :rambo: Like five-oh said, "This is not a time for diplomacy, this is war".

Also, everyone of you who possibly can, take the time and donate blood. God knows the supplies are extremely short. Or if not, donate a few dollars. There are funds being set up all over the U.S. today to support the victims and victims families. Maybe we can take up a collection for the families of the police officers, firefighters, and EMS personnel lost..

MrJim911
09-12-2001, 01:47
I was here at work when it happened. I was with a group of firemen from one of the FD's I dispatch for when the first tower collapsed. All they could think about were the firemen inside. Now I sit here in my center listening to F-15's flying over my towns because we are so close to Chicago. An eerie feeling to say the least. My prayers are with everyone involved. Hopefully this is the end and not the beginning. Also hopefully cooler heads will prevail and we will make sure we find the people that actually are responsible for this tragedy, not strike out blindly, so we can hit them hard. And let's not do it by resorting to blowing up their hospitals and schools. I'm an American not a terrorist. Let not sink down to their level. God Bless america...

calypso
09-12-2001, 02:00
The Men and Women in uniform stand ready to carry out the orders of our leaders and policy makers. we cannot talk about what we are doing, but have faith. justice will be served. Terrorists have been tugging at the Dragon's tail for years, this time the dragon has awakened, and is turning to strike.

God embrace our Fallen, our Hero's, and those left behind.

And God guide the hand of those of us who will act.


Calypso, Out

"The more you live, the less you die."

srosibley
09-12-2001, 07:02
BLOODIED, BUT NOT BOWED!!! IT IS TIME FOR JUSTICE. THE KIND OF RIGHTOUS JUSTICE THAT COMES DOWN LIKE FIRE. NO TRIALS, NO MEDIA COVERAGE, NO MERCY. WE SIMPLY MUST KILL THEM ALL. IF WE DON'T IT WILL NEVER STOP.
WE ARE AMERICA. IF WE ARE TO SURVIVE THE BLOOD OF THOSE INVOLVED MUST BE SHED. THEY HAVE DECLARED WAR, AND NOW IS THE TIME TO TAKE THE WAR TO THEM.
TO ALL THE FAMILIES OF LE, FF, AND EMT'S MISSING. MAY GOD BE WITH YOU AND COMFORT YOU, AND MAY OUR GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE FIND THE RESOLVE TO AVENGE THEIR SACRAFICE. STAY SAFE.

deaspy
09-12-2001, 08:33
I work across the street from Pentagan and I hope I never see something like that again. We got evacuated and are still closed for business at HQ. My guess would be maybee through friday.

Really Pissid....

lestrade
09-12-2001, 08:42
My brother who works at world trade was late for work yesterday and arrived just in time to see the first impact from outside the building. He and his GF started running.

Thank god for miracles.

I called my recruiter for the FBI and told her since my BG is done im ready to help. Making coffee - copies whatever so the others can do the work. Ive got 2+ weeks of vacation.

My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone.

lestrade

margherita_2315
09-12-2001, 11:28
:mad: Just like Tampa_#63 said, it's time for a little atom splitting here. Once these bastards are identified, they should go in wage all out war. Look at what happened with Japan in WWII. The US atom bombed two of their cities, and they finally surrendered after that. I'm sorry to say, but this may be the only solution to creating a wake up call for these bastards. I hadn't even seen any footage about the devastation until I got home from work last night. I felt such rage and sadness at the same time, to just watch the second plane crash into the other tower! Then people plunging to their death- atrocious!! I heard a husband and wife held hands together and then jumped to their death together- SAD! I couldn't even sleep last night, for christ's sake. I am now constantly worried for my wife because she works on the fifteenth floor of the first national bank in downtown San Diego. What if these fuckers hijack a plane from San Diego's airport and decide to do this again? They may head for that building, which is the tallest one in downtown San Diego. I told her to just quite her job and go work for some other law firm where it's not in a building. She may do that too. I live right up from the CHP's El Cajon station and I noticed they closed the gates up and closed the office to everyone. They also placed a patrol car in front ofthe gates. All in all, these tragic events have greatly effected everyone's lives. I so much pray for all the victims involved, and I also pray for all the LEOs, EMTs and FFs who have lost their lives. They are doing all they can, and they ARE doing an outstanding job!! May God bless all of us and America, and everyone please be safe. I and my wife are going to donate blood tommorrow- it's the least we can do.

anthony38
09-12-2001, 17:46
:eek: This whole thing makes me sick with anger. My heart felt prayers go out the my brother and sister officers and all other victims of this horrid crime.
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This is nothing short of MURDER, and an obviouse slap in our face. It's time "justice" was served on these people. I hate to say it, but even the women and children that were cheering, and happy that this all took place, and all the AMERICANS were killed. the children will grow up to hate Americans, the next binladin was more then likely cheering in that group.
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It's time we "DROP A MESSAGE" on these F^@king murdering bastards.
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For those people that believe we should not retaliate with violence. (Although I respect your opinions) need to wake up! It's time to fight fire with fire. we've sat back and let these murderers do there deads TOO LONG! It's time to put an end to these types of cowardly murderous acts.
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Although I live in little Maine, things have been crazy while on the job... I can't even imagine what it would be like to be in New York right now. GODS SPEED TO ALL OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS DOWN THERE!! PLEASE BE SAFE!
My wifes and my prayers are with you all!!
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by they way, has anyone heard from Papimike, or the other members of the NYPD that belong to the site?? anyone know if they are okay? Again, my prayers are with you all!!
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And with law enforcement and rescue/fire services all over the country! Lets stay stong and do what we can for our brothers and sisters in NY. God bless!

MrJim911
09-12-2001, 18:59
papimike is ok. He posted a very emotional post under the "Police Questions" Forum under the thread "Papimike888 & Tommynypd" Go there to read it.... I've seen posts from another 2 NYPD members also.

DJOHNSON954
09-12-2001, 20:09
I seriously hope that our President has something fierce in store for these BASTARDS when identified! I would be more than happy to be called back to go and defend our great nation! GOD BLESS all of the victims and their families. GOD BLESS all of the LEO's and fire and EMT teams. Something needs to be done!

dan707
09-13-2001, 12:31
i was at ground zero last nite and to me it is totally amazing how thousands of strangers are working together to help out complete strangers burried under ruble. whatever ppl think about new yorkers being rude and all that has to see this. i am glad i am in nyc cause if anything ever happened to me or my family i know there are ppl in sec to come to our aid. God bless all the familes that lost loved ones, and all those who are helping to find the ones that are buried!!

Kojak
09-14-2001, 18:55
Dan - I've been several times, but before it was 'ground zero'. In spite of all the really vivid pictures on TV, it just seems impossible that all of that lot could have come down.
God bless all those who are killed and injured and may He keep safe all those rescue workers - who are now having to work in mud because of the heavy rain.