Exiting the military

[SARDOG]

Does anyone know if they are letting people in the military separate, retire, or go on terminal leave since 11 Sep.?

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San Antonio Express-News
September 25, 2001

Military Moves To Extend Service Terms

By Sig Christenson, San Antonio Express-News

In a bid to keep veteran troops in uniform as it prepares for war, the Defense Department said Monday it had authorized the
services to prevent its veteran troops from leaving or retiring.

The rare "stop-loss" order issued this past weekend by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld means that those planning to retire or
quit after Oct. 1 could be forced to remain in uniform for up to two years.

Only the Air Force and Navy had invoked stop-loss by Monday night, but the Marines were developing a version of it. The Army
had no immediate plans to implement stop-loss.

"The purpose of this action is to meet mission requirements in support of Operation Noble Eagle and any follow-on operations
regarding the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks," Air Force Lt. Col. Jan Middleton said, referring in part to the recovery effort in New
York and Washington.

President Bush authorized stop-loss under Title 10 of the U.S. Code. The law allows him to suspend any provision of law relating
to promotions, retirements and separations during periods when reservists are on active duty as a result of involuntary mobilization
actions.

Bush has authorized a call-up of up to 50,000 part-time troops.

Stop-loss was last used by the Air Force during the 1999 Kosovo air war. It targeted 120,000 airmen in critical jobs, including
virtually all of the Air Force's pilots and navigators, but was used for just nine days before the air war concluded.

"The point is that the burden needs to be spread across the active, Reserve and Guard," said former Air Force Secretary F.
Whitten Peters, the service's top civilian during the 78-day air war. "So it seems fundamentally unfair to allow people to continue
to retire from the active duty while calling back people from the Guard and Reserve."

As the day ended it wasn't clear exactly how many of the Air Force's 349,089 officers and enlistees — including 12,199 pilots and
4,905 navigators — would be affected by the stop-loss order. The edict will run at least 30 days.

The Navy will implement a limited stop-loss program Oct. 10, affecting about 10,500 sailors in 11 specialties.

Last year, the Air Force granted 19,000 separations to enlistees, 1,500 of those who became officers, said Capt. John Thomas, a
spokesman with the Air Force Personnel Center at Randolph AFB. About 8,000 enlistees sought to leave the service from
October to March of last year.

Figures for officers weren't available.

The personnel center began working to implement the stop-loss order as soon as Rumsfeld signed it last Wednesday, Thomas said.
But he went on to say it ultimately will be up to the four-star generals who lead the Air Force's major commands to grant waivers
that allow airmen to leave the service.

Those remaining on duty longer than planned will stay no more than two years.

Despite the order, some airmen still will be able to leave.

Anyone who had already-approved separation dates no later than Oct. 1 will be allowed to leave, Thomas said. Some officers
reaching mandatory retirement cutoffs also will be able to exit the Air Force so they can receive any leave they may have had as
well take advantage of congressionally mandated career transition assistance.

Enlisted people reaching their mandatory retirement or separation dates will be allowed to remain on active duty until stop-loss
ends, Thomas said. At that point, he continued, they will be allowed to choose a separation or retirement date. Those wanting to
leave or retire will be encouraged to file the required paperwork.

"We're continuing to accept both applications for retirements and separations," Thomas said, adding "they pretty much will be held
in abeyance, with nothing done with them," until stop-loss ends.

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SARDOG,

How many times do I have to tell you you're not going anywhere. Just plan on getting back on the bird farm and heading West. Tell SDPD they are going to have to wait until the business at hand is finished and you'll be there when you get there. LOL!

P.S. I hope all your quals are up to date. Again LOL!!!

[Dwight6]

SARDOG,

I am in the same boat. I'm supposed to start with a metro PD in January.

[SARDOG]

I talked to my detailer today and he said that my job hasn't been affected by the "stop-loss" order, yet. We'll see. If I have to stay in for the good of my country, I won't have any heartburn over it.

[pilk706]

Law enforcement agencies nationwide are well aware of the "stop-loss." I have contacted the agencies I was in the middle of processing with and they comletely understand. I am sure anyone with anything pending with any department will have no problem getting a militray deferment. I just reccomend calling your investigator as early as possible. Good luck to all and be safe!!!!

[LAhopeful]

Jan 15 i'll start the workups for UNITAS and i hope it goes well. As for now I'm in several processes and hope one of those jobs will kick in after the boat float. I have a brother that got an entry level seperation from the AF and wants to try CHP does he have to list that? And does he have to put down on the application that he got fired?
Thanks all
Semper Fi