Question about Firearms

[GRIFFIN11]

Hello,
I was just wondering which is not only the most widely used, but would also be the most dependable firearm to carry on duty. From my research I seem to have come up with three that pretty much seem to be standard:

Glock .40 or .45
Strye M or S .40
H&K .45 USP

Am I right on these assumptions? I know the Glock sizes can vary. I know this is probably a topic tossed around alot here, and by reading past post, Glock .40s look to be most popular. Any help or advice is appreciated.

Thanks,
John

[Shadowknows]

Why not look at the Sig 10 times better for the money

[GRIFFIN11]

When you said SIG 10 I assume you meant it to be a 10 mm. The only SIGs I know of are the P-210, P-220, P-220ST, P-226, P-229, and P-232 which are 9mm, .45, 9mm, .40, .357, and .380. None are a 10mm. Do they have a website where can I can look at them? It may just be the catalogue I have (American HandGunner) where they also seem more expensive than some of the others. Where is a good place to look?

Thanks alot for the input,
John:)

[Shadowknows]

No sorry thats 10 times better. You only listed the 40 and 45 Sig has both those I know it is far better then the Glock. But then I have been told in the past you either like Sig or Glock, I have not found anybody who likes both. Only trying to offer another fine weapon. I carry the Sig and love it. Alson I do not see Smith and Wesson listed they are most used down here

[GRIFFIN11]

I see what you meant now. Sorry about the misunderstanding. I really appreciate the help. I will check one out. Yeah, one of the departments near here are issued Glock .40s. Have you ever fired a Glock .40, .45 or 10mm. I intersted in recoil, sight accuarcy , and bullet velocity compared to the SIG. Thanks again for the help.

John

[Shadowknows]

Our department checked out the Glock I thought it was a very loose gun. Almost toy like, really did not like it at all. Then we tried the Sig 9mm I fell in love with it. The most dependable gun I have had. I guess at $700+ it should be. I also carried the S&W off duty, I found it had many of the same features. Most of the large departments around that furnish weapons carrier one or the other and some both (on & off duty). Go to your local in door range and see if you can rent one of both and shoot them. We can up here I assume you can do that down there. It only cost a few bucks. They sometimes have several different brands.

[GRIFFIN11]

That sounds fine and I will give it a try.
Thanks for the info.

John

[DelC]

I would recommend the .40 cal over the .45, as the magazine capacity is much larger.

[sigy]

Hey shadowknows, I happen to like both. I have a Glock 22 and a Sig P-229. Both great firearms. Different, but great.


Sigy:destroy:

[Samurai004]

Either the Glock or the Sig are great choices, and .40 or .45 are great calibers. Pick which ever one feels best (most natural) to you, go to a gun shop that has a range and test fire each before buying if possible.

I personally lean towards the Glock because the winters here can get pretty harsh and the Glock seems to stand up to the weather the best, however this should really not be an issue if you maintain your weapon properly. Another thing I like about the Glock is that full size primary magazines can be used in the smaller "baby" Glocks if you carry one for backup. I want all my ammo to be available if I am in a situation that I am down to my backup. I don't know if the Sig Sauer's have the same type of interchangabilty regarding magazines.

Make sure you rotate your ammo in several magazines and allow those magazine springs to rest, also change them (the magazine springs) regularly since magazine malfunction is normally the cause of feeding and ejection failures.

The best advise I can give you is to go get some good training on your own and practice, practice, practice...all the best equipment won't do you a lick of good if you aren't effective using it. You could give me an F-22 Raptor and I wouldn't kill one terrorist, see what I am talking about here...The "tools" you put in your "toolbox" are only as good as you make them.

Well good luck, happy shopping, and stay safe.


:) :)

[Shadowknows]

Sigy; Thanks I'll add your name to the list. I have only a few names on it. Most don't like both..... I guess they both have good points. At there price they should. The best advice is to try both and take a pick it is really "to each his own". :p :bounce:

[Celtic Warrior]

Add my name to the list as well. I've owned a P226, P228 and currently have my issued P228 (which we keep upon retirement), however as a secondary weapon and on my own time I carry a Glock (either a model 30, 19 or 21 - two .45 and a 9mm). I have owned a Glock model 22,23 & 27 in years past (got rid of them because it was trickier to reload for the .40 - it is an excellent round though if your going to be shooting factory ammo). Any of them are fine quality pistols - it depends on which one feels better to you and how you feel about it. None of the listed should ever fail you! My advice would be to try to get into an armorers school (especially if you can get employer to pay for it if in LE) - sometimes you can get deals through the factory after completion of the class and get a good deal on the pistol.:bounce:

[Shadowknows]

Ok I'll add you to my list. Maybe I stand corrected, that is just the conversation we have up here I'm sure there are others out there. I just tossed the list in the can.:confused:

[GRIFFIN11]

Just found out our department issues SIG P226. I will work with it and try a Glock also for comparisons.

Thanks for the info,
John

[Kahuna5150]

I'm also a Glock and a Sig fan. I own a Sig 229 in .40 cal and have carried it on duty as my side arm. Now in investigations I am back to carrying my Glock 22 .40 cal. I think the Glocks and Sigs are both very reliable and good shooting handguns. For off-duty and/or plain clothes work I prefer the Glock. It is a bit lighter in my opinion than my stainless steel Sig.

I also look around the other people I am now working with. Everyone but one person carries the Glock 22. This can be an issue you might consider. As investigators may normally only carry one spare mag, (if any) it's nice to be using the same gun as everyone else should you need to share mags or ammo.

Just a thought...

Kahuna

[GRIFFIN11]

Sharing ammo... never thought about that. This brings a new light on the subject.

Thanks,
John

[BOLO SIGNAL 44]

I have an HK USP 45 also three .40 cal Glocks. All four are good weapons. I carry my Glock 23 on my side and a Glock 27 in an ankle rig while on the job. I like the USP 45 it's a good pistol however it is rather large. The HK has a 13 round magazine capacity. That's not bad for a 45 ACP. The reason I carry the Glock 23 rather than the USP is that I can put it into action and place the shots were they need to be alot quicker than I can with the HK. I have never shot a Sig handgun but I know a few officer that carry them. They all like their Sigs and say they would not change for anything. It's all about what type of action you like on a pistol and the feel along with caliber.

[augiedare]

Sig P226 and Glock 23 fan!!! Started out shooting the Sig but the department I want to work for only allows Glock.

So whataya gonna do - Shoot em both! :destroy:

[kennethm3]

Bolo Signal 44,

Have you ever thought about having your HK changed to Variant 7 (DAO) or to the new LEM trigger group? That will "put it into action" just like your Glock. Stay safe out there.

[BOLO SIGNAL 44]

kennethm3
I thought about it at one point when I had a USP 40. After getting the USP 45 I was going to change it around to I believe it is variant 9, right hand control lever without decock. My reason behind that was I was going to carry it in single action like a 1911 and not worry about pushing the lever down to far and decock it when draw and take the safety off. I never got that far, I sold the USP 40 and purchased my Glock 23 to go with the model 27 I already had. I am thinking about tradeing the HK for a Glock 30.