Federal Reserve Police?

[DC LD]

I have heard that the Federal Reserve security guards will become a federal police force in 2002. They are currently a group of unarmed uniformed security guards. I heard this from someone at the DC Fed Res, I assume the other locations will follow suit. Has anyone else heard about this?


:alienfade

[nsedet]

I remember reading a section of the USC that grants the Reserve the authority to give its security personnel law enforcement authority. I was not aware any of the Fed Reserve folks are unarmed, as the few locations I have seen were carrying firearms. Some of their locations (Baltimore, I believe) require that their officers have 'special police' commission to enforce the law on Reserve property; I have seen Reserve job postings on various sites, and different locations seem to use different titles ("security guard," "security police," "special police", etc)...not sure why that is, but I assume each location can set its own standards and policies. I also recall seeing some senior level security management positions somewhere online a while back, and those positions required deputization by the USMS.

[ssween2]

I don't know if there is a difference between Federal Resesve security and Police but where I work in Manhattan the Federal Reserve is right across the street. The officers who are outside have Federal Reserve Police across their jackets and do carry weapons. All of them that I have come into contact with have been carrying and wearing police insignias. During the events of 9/11 they sealed off the whole block and many of them were wearing tactical raid gear and carrying shotguns. Are these the security guards you were talking about, because to me I always thought they were 0083's.

[mcdax]

I work for the Fed Res, we are currently called protection officers. We are in the process of getting Federal status, this went into effect with the patriot act(anti terroism bill). As for being unarmed that is not true, we all carry weapons.

[Housecop]

My Uncle is a agent with the FRB and said their officers will become a full Uniformed Federal Force in the coming months. I thought I remember him saying that those, in DC, were unarmed. When I go down there I'll ask. I thought that was part of the reason they were going to train them, because they couldn't carry. I could be wrong.

[DC LD]

Housecop,

That's the info I had. It was second hand from someone that works in DC. They are supposed to be going to Glynco in early 2002. I didn't know if things were the same at other Fed Res sites. I was interested because DC is said to be hiring and I wanted to know more about them. Does anyone have any info regarding duties etc?

Thanks

:alienfade

[mcdax]

I have not heard anything about going to glynco. the latest talk in the grapevine(so take it for what it is worth) is the all the training will be in house. only the trainers wil go to glynco, come back and train the rest of us. but i have also heard in the past that we are all going to glynco so, so who knows.

[CustomsCop]

Here in Philly, The fed reserve bank security either calls the Mint police or FPS if they need any police services. Both are in a block of the fed reserve.

[Housecop]

mcdax,
My uncle also said that the FRB is just sending down the trainers to Glynco, they will come back and give in-house training.

[mcdax]

Now my question to you is will this count towards reciprocity (sp) in my state. In other words will my state recognize this as a police dept? In the announcement they stated that it had to be approved by the Attorney General of the United States. If he approves it does it have to be recognized by the State of Minnesota? Or can the state say it does not recognize it?

[nsedet]

Originally posted by mcdax
Now my question to you is will this count towards reciprocity (sp) in my state. In other words will my state recognize this as a police dept? In the announcement they stated that it had to be approved by the Attorney General of the United States. If he approves it does it have to be recognized by the State of Minnesota? Or can the state say it does not recognize it?

A Federal police agency does not have to be recognized by any state. In general, Federal police enforce Federal laws on Federal property, and often are not recognized by the states to enforce state law. Whether you would be recognized as a police officer by a given state depends on state law...many states view Federal officers differently depending on what the issue is (for example, a Federal agent may be viewed by a given state as a peace officer while on duty, for purposes of charging crimes such as "assault on a peace officer," but may not be granted any state arrest authority).

[hikerpaddler]

As noted, FRS Protection is armed, period, though some some feds may employ security guards to free up armed and/or sworn officers when possible. Many districts already are certified as police officers by state or local agencies. Some have not been, and that will change with the Patriot act. As for FLETC, it is correct that System trainers attended train-the-trainer sessions at FLETC, and training will be done district by district for FRS officers. As far as authority, FRS police are tasked with policing FRS property, dignitaries, and any other security function as directed by the FRS, and their authority is not limited geographically, and extends beyond FRS property. While the police authority granted by the Patriot act extends beyond these duties, short of another national emergency, it would be inappropriate for a FRS officer to act as a police presence outside of FRS tasking.

[System]

One of my friends is a police officer with the fed. The job posting calls it "federal reserve law enforcement officer", and mostly lists physical security tasks, but the guy I know has been through defensive driving school, bomb school, expanded EP training, and other stuff I can't remember. Not a bad gig, especially with their retirement.

[hikerpaddler]

Amen to that. I have unofficial word that I'll start my training rotation in early September. Good bunch of guys.

[System]

Cool. I knew from your posts that you worked at the Fed, but I didn't know you were going to their police force. Keep us posted on how it goes.


Originally posted by hikerpaddler
Amen to that. I have unofficial word that I'll start my training rotation in early September. Good bunch of guys.

[ssween2]

Hiker,
Is this for the NY Fed? My pops wants to get back into LE and is very interested in the Fed Reserve here in NYC. He isn't having much luck due to the fact that he is 45 years old. He is a current fed employee but not in a LE capacity. He keeps checking the website but there haven't been any openings for Protection Officers. Do you know if there will be any positions in NYC soon? Maybe he should just call over there and ask to speak with someone in the LE office. Any thoughts??? Also, if you have a contact # for NYC and could PM it to me it would be very appreciated. Thanks

[hikerpaddler]

No, I'm in the 6th district. I don't know about NY, but in our district, the job description is no longer "Protection Officer" (which was used in different districts to describe sworn and non-sworn jobs), but "Federal Reserve Law Enforcement Officer". I don't know that age should be a consideration, but in my area, we don't hire folks without LE experience or LE military experience.

[Det311]

"IS this one of those gigs where at the end of the shift you have to secure your weapon at the property? I am assuming that they do not have off-duty carry authority?

[governor]

Please don't reply to posts that are so out of date. If you have a new question or comment, start a new thread.