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04-10-2003, 10:02 #1
I spoke LAPD gang yesterday and found out some interesting things. (jus' do'in a lil research)
1.) They do not take lateral transfers, you have to attend the 7 month academy.
2.) I will max out on the "steps" at about 62,000 a year as compared to the initial salary of 48,000 for a entery level cadet.
I am not opposed to suffering through an 8-4, mon-fri academy, no matter what I would be making. Anybody have any thoughts on LAPD? I was told that due to education and experience I would get preferential hiring and they have an accelerated hiring for out of town applicants. Not really committed but trying to get a feel out.LWFOF
04-10-2003, 12:33 #2
Make sure you ride at different stations and do your homework. I went to some dope schools during the year after the Rampart scandal and there were some pretty wild stories about the heat that came down. For example the authority to make arrests was taken away from officers. If you wanted to make an arrest you detained the suspect in the back of your squad and a sergeant was required to respond to the scene, get briefed, and then approve of the arrest.
I'm sure things have toned down during the past couple of years but make sure of that before you head out here. $62k is okay money down in the L.A. area. Rent within the commuting area of most of the places you'll work is reasonable.
This is a bad time to try and get hired as a cop in CA because of the financial position of our state government. The state has leveraged itself into significant debt and as a result is going to raid revenue sources of cities and counties. The cities and counties are already cutting heavily and cuts are expected to continue over the next year.
While I don't know anything about the LA financial situation there is a chance you may end up finding yourself laid off during or at the end of the academy. Make sure you are in a financial condition where you could handle that if it happened. Best of luck to you.
04-10-2003, 12:39 #3Minotaur Guest
What type of education and experience earns you preference in the hiring process? I have a JD and a number of years of law practice.
I'd actually enjoy earning 47 grand per year with benefits to study and PT at the academy. We're all well-aware of the problems that LA has and I'd like to get involved, espcailly with Chief Bratton out there now. I'm busting my ass on my workouts and getting my paperwork assembled; I'm traveling out to LA at the end of the month for the condensed four-day process.
04-10-2003, 13:21 #4
Thanx for the info LeeRoy, I will keep all of what you said in mind. As they say, "On paper it all looks good". I came from New Orleans so we all got beat up a little bit, the only thing you can do is put you chin up, chest out, and drive on.
Minotaur, I looked at the web site and spoke to the recruiter. The interpretation I got was with 10 years LE experience and a college degree; I would start out at step 7 or 8. They did not give any consideration to graduate level stuff.
Like I said in the other post, I am just throwing bites and waiting to see who nibbles. I found out while working in the police missions overseas that experience, training, and education are all qualities that can be negotiated. I wonder if there is any free agency for police officers, I am looking to be traded.
04-10-2003, 14:05 #5Joker921 Guest
my cousin is an lapd officer and he told me that laterals academys are usually less than 7 months. Perhaps it might of changed now. Question i had plans to visit my family and brother out in the LA area, I thought of walking in an taking the LAPD written exam. Can anyone give me an idea on what the exam covers. I also am intrested in knowing is the exam an easy or a hard exam.
04-10-2003, 15:14 #6Chief
- Join Date
- Oct 2001
- Where I hang my hat.
lateral to LA
Most people go in with dollar signs in thier eyes, and then quickly realize that top step 70k is not enough money to work South East.
Laterals have to go through the entire academy last I heard, the reason the academy is so long is because of the the department specific training that is required.
As for the dark cloud hanging over head...take a look at the website, www.lapdonline.com and go to the complaint section. The only thing technologically up to date is there complaint service, online page in many different languages. So you can be equally jammed up in spanish, vietnamese as well as others...Can you say federal consent decree.
As far as lay offs, the attrition rate is too high to be terribly concerned about that. Secondly, take a look at the proposed budget cuts that Joe Davis is putting forward, Law Enforcement may not get grants renewed, but CJ agencies are one of the least effected groups. The departments that are affected the most are medium to small departments. Though LASD, says they are laying off left and right, they still have superfluous programs in place that make me think that either there is agreat deal of mismangement (not suprising for Southern California) or they are politically grandstanding.
LA is a good department in need of solid leadership, perhaps the new chief will provide that, only time will tell. And from what I have been told, he will do a considerably better job than Parks, because you can really only go up from him...Big issue is that he holds a city council seat now...
Draw your own conclusions
06-09-2003, 13:31 #7
I got my packet in the mail and will take the out of town testing in Septmenber. I money looks good but I am concerned about the cost of living in California. My arguement is that other officers can do it so why can't I? Any LAPD guys drop me a line and let me know.LWFOF
06-09-2003, 20:35 #8
I'm pretty sure there actually is a lateral police academy with LAPD. Now when i'm talking lateral, I mean for California POST certified police officers. If you're an out-of-state officer, you will have to attend a full academy, although you will start at a higher salary due to your experience. I was told that 'straight from the horses mouth' as they say, a few years ago.
A check of their website today confirmed it (off www.lapd.org):
Is there a lateral police academy?
Yes. For more information, please contact Recruitment and Employment Section at 866-444-LAPD.
06-11-2003, 13:15 #9southeast_108th Guest
I spend the last three years with the LAPD. IMHO, the LAPD is a great agency and you will have a great time. I worked Southeast and Wilshire Divisions. The most violent and busiest divisions in the LAPD. It will be very exciting.
Regarding the complaint system, things are getting a lot better. I worked for 2 1/2 years under the Parks system and it was not that bad if you know your limits as an officer.
I applied via the out town testing in November of 1999 and attended the academy in May of 2000. I am not sure how they compute pay for police specialists (lateral hires).
You can email me if you have any questions.
Good luck with the LAPD,
06-15-2003, 19:33 #10out town testing in November of 1999 and attended the academy in May of 2000LWFOF
06-15-2003, 21:40 #11LAPDguy GuestOriginally posted by UN_Cop
That is a pretty quick turnaround. I did some research on the board and found some negative stuff about the department, in particular the hiring process. I do not know if it was disgruntled people or what. I am working on a masterâ€™s degree, military intel officer, and 10 years as a LEO. I have been told that I would max out at step 7. The only thing I hope for is to be competitive. Now the bad part, I have a background issue regarding a job I was fired from. This was about 4 years ago and I am worried about the "thanks for applying but" letter. I will take the process in Sept and will see what happens.
The LAPD process is a strange one, nothing is absolute when it comes to who they actually decide to hire. My academy class was a very diverse lot with people from all walks of life. One female recruit even worked as a live at home nanny (!) for most of her life. We had ex-parademics, marines, accountants, college boys, and blue collar working joes all in the same class. There was no real "commonality" except for their interest in becoming a police officer.
You sound like a good applicant and depending on what you were fired for they may or may not overlook it. If it wasn't a serious integrity issue they may overlook it. Just be up front about everything and you'll be fine.