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09-29-2003, 11:38 #1jameski Guest
FBI or Homeland Security Agent?
I've been thinking about applying for the FBI SA or Homeland Security SA, what is the difference between the Phase I FBI exam and the TEA exam? IS the Homeland Security agent as challenging as an FBI agent? Is the homeland SA hiring process lengthy as the FBI process?
09-29-2003, 12:12 #2
Can you please tell me where you have found information on the Special Agent position for the DHS?
09-29-2003, 12:15 #3jameski Guest
09-29-2003, 12:17 #4jameski Guest
The Homeland Security Agent position falls under the USSS (united states secret service).
09-29-2003, 12:31 #5
umm correct me if I'm wrong, but a special agent/criminal investigator for the Secret Service is called a Secret Service Agent, not a DHS S/A. If you look at the agency in your search you will see it says Secret Service. I think that your search for 1811 in DHS yielded the only advertised positions on OPM which happened to be USSS.
09-29-2003, 12:34 #6jameski Guest
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY U. S. SECRET SERVICE
Vacancy Announcement Number: SPECIAL AGENT
Opening Date: 11/30/2001
Closing Date: 12/29/2005
Position: CRIMINAL INVESTIGATOR
Salary: $39,613 - $71,678 per year
Promotion Potential: GS-13
Duty Location: Many vacanciesNATIONWIDE, US
Many vacancies at THE CONTINENTAL U.S., US
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY U.S. SECRET SERVICE VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NO: SPECIAL AGENT POSITION AND GRADE: Criminal Investigator, GS-1811-5/7/9 SALARY: $39,613 per year - $71,678 per year *Includes 25% Law Enforcement Availability Pay (LEAP). PROMOTION POTENTIAL: GS-13 NUMBER OF VACANCIES: Several OPENING DATE: 11/30/2001 CLOSING DATE: Indefinite DUTY LOCATION: Continental United States WHO MAY APPLY: All sources WORK SCHEDULE: Full-time MAJOR DUTIES: Special agents are charged with two missions: protection and investigations. During the course of their careers, special agents carry out assignments in both of these areas and may be assigned to multiple duty stations throughout the U.S. and abroad. PROTECTION: Special agents are authorized by law to protect the United States President, Vice President, President-elect, Vice President-elect, their immediate families, former Presidents, their spouses and minor children until age 16, visiting foreign heads of states/governments, their accompanying spouses, major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates, their spouses, and others designated by law. INVESTIGATIONS: Special agents are also authorized by law to conduct criminal investigations pertaining to the counterfeiting of United States and foreign government obligations and securities; fictitious and fraudulently negotiated government and commercial securities, identity theft, false identification, computer crimes, access device fraud, telecommunications fraud, telemarketing fraud, electronic funds transfer fraud, and fraud concerning federally insured financial institutions. QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED: Applicants must be U.S. Citizens; between the ages of 21 and less than 37 at the time of appointment; and possess visual acuity no worse than 20/60 uncorrected, correctable to 20/20 in each eye. Note: The Department of the Treasury has deemed Lasik, ALK, RK, and PRK corrective eye surgeries as acceptable eye surgeries for its special agent applicants. Applicants will be considered eligible for the special agent position provided specific visual tests are passed 3 months after Lasik surgery and one year after all other surgeries. In addition, applicants must possess a 4-year degree from an accredited college or university; or 3-years of work experience in the criminal investigative or law enforcement fields that require knowledge and application of laws relating to criminal violations; or an equivalent combination of education and experience. According to the Office of Personnel Management regulations, nonqualifying law enforcement experience is as follows: Experience as a uniformed law enforcement officer where the principal duties consisted of investigations and arrests involving traffic violations, minor felonies, misdemeanors, and comparable offenses; or in which the major duties involved guarding and protecting property, preventing crimes, and/or legal research without the application of investigative techniques. PAY, BENEFITS, AND WORK SCHEDULE: PAY: Special agents are generally hired at the GS-5, GS-7, or GS-9 grade levels depending on qualifications and education. Based on those grade levels and geographic area assigned, the 2003 starting salary range is $39,613 - $71,678. The salary range includes 25% Law Enforcement Availability Pay (LEAP). The position has a journeyman promotion potential to the GS-13 grade level. Promotion beyond the GS-13 grade level is subject to competitive procedures. BENEFITS: Annual leave is earned at the rate of 13-26 days per year, with a maximum accumulation of 240 hours per year to be carried over to the following year. The rate of annual leave received is based on the length of employment. Prior Federal civilian and/or military service may be creditable. Sick leave is earned at the rate of 13 days per year, and may be accumulated without limit. In addition, special agents receive paid holidays, low cost health/life insurance, and Federal Employee Retirement System (FERS) benefits. WORK SCHEDULE: Special agents are normally assigned to work a 40-hour (normal business) workweek (e.g., 9:00am-5:30pm), Monday through Friday, while assigned to field offices. Due to the receipt of LEAP, special agents usually work an average of 2 additional hours per day. While conducting certain criminal investigative assignments, protective assignments, and/or being assigned to a protective detail, special agents usually work hours other than normal business hours (e.g., 12mn-8am, 4pm-12mn, 10am-6pm, 6am-2pm, 2pm-10pm, etc.), in addition to 2 or more LEAP hours, on a daily basis. In short, during such assignments, the hours worked by special agents will vary depending on the nature of their assignments. CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT: As a condition of employment, male applicants born after December 31, 1959, must certify that they have registered with the Selective Service System, or are exempt from having to do so under Selective Service law. Prior to appointment, applicants must not have reached their 37th birthday unless they have previous service in a Federal Civilian Law Enforcement position covered by special civil service retirement provisions, including early or mandatory retirement. The maximum entry age limit was established under the age discrimination prohibitions contained in Section 15 of the Age Discrimination and Employment Act. Maximum age limitations may not be waived for any applicant, including those entitled to veterans' preference. Applicants must pass a medical examination by an authorized government physician which includes vision, hearing, cardiovascular, and mobility of extremities. In addition, applicants must be determined physically fit by an authorized government physician to perform strenuous and physically demanding duties. Applicants must also pass in-depth interviews, the Treasury Enforcement Agent examination, a report writing test, a pre-employment polygraph examination, drug screening, and extensive background investigation. Applicants must be able to obtain a Top Secret clearance. Initial appointment to the special agent position is normally made in the excepted service. The special agent position is designated as a key position in accordance with Department of Defense Directive 1200.7. As such, employees occupying this position will have their military status changed to either Retired Reserve or Standby Reserve, or maybe discharged, as appropriate. Newly appointed special agents, upon completion of training, will be required to carry a firearm while performing duties and maintain firearms proficiency. They may be required to undergo frequent travel. Also, candidates must sign a mobility agreement stating their willingness to accept assignments anywhere within the United States and overseas. OTHER INFORMATION: Identification of promotion potential in this position does not constitute a commitment or an obligation on the part of management to promote the employee selected at some future date. Promotion will depend upon administrative approval and the continuing need for an actual assignment and performance of higher level duties. TRAINING: Newly appointed special agents receive approximately 11 weeks of intensive training at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC) in Glynco, Georgia or Artesia, New Mexico. Upon successful completion of training at FLETC, they receive approximately 11 weeks of specialized instruction at the James J. Rowley Training Center in Laurel, Maryland. HOW TO APPLY: Applications for this vacancy MUST be received electronically via email or facsimile (fax) to the Personnel Division or can be mailed directly to the U.S. Secret Service (USSS) field office nearest your current residence. To find the USSS field office nearest your current residence, visit the USSS (home page) internet website: www.secretservice.gov. Please refer to the section below for specific instructions on how to submit applications electronically. If you submit your application electronically to the Personnel Division, it will be forwarded to the USSS field office nearest your current residence for further processing. Applications are accepted on a continuous basis. All applicants must submit an OF 612, Optional Application for Federal Employment; or an SF 171, Application for Federal Employment; or a resume; or any other application form, which includes the information cited in the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) brochure OF 510, Applying for a Federal Job. This brochure is available from OPM or the Secret Service Personnel Division. NOTE: Applicants who submit an OF 612, or a resume, or any other application form other than the SF 171 must also include a Declaration for Federal Employment, OF 306. You have two choices on how to submit applications electronically. 1. You may submit your application via email to the following address: email@example.com After saving your completed application, e-mail the application using the instructions on the form (or as an attachment) to the e-mail address listed above. Enter the position title, Special Agent, on the subject line of the email. 2. You may submit your application by fax. If you elect to do so, you should mark each page of your application with your name, social security number, and the position title. The fax numbers for the USSS Personnel Division application lines are: (202) 406-6844 (202) 406-5613 NOTE: If you experience problems submitting your application electronically, please contact the Personnel Division Electronic Help Line at (202) 406-6090. If you are claiming veterans' preference, you must submit the following documentation to receive this credit. If you are claiming 10-point veterans' preference, submit a Standard Form 15, Application for 10-point Preference, your DD 214, Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty, and a letter dated, within the last 12 months, from the Veterans Administration documenting your 10-point veterans' preference. If you are claiming 5-point veterans' preference, submit a copy of your DD 214. Candidates with Federal government status MUST submit a copy of their most recent SF 50, Notification of Personnel Action, with their application for this vacancy. For additional information about this position, not included in this vacancy announcement, please contact: Personnel Division Special Agent and Uniformed Division Support Branch 202-406-5271 THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER. This agency provides reasonable accommodations to applicants with disabilities. If you need reasonable accommodations for any part of the application and hiring process, please notify the agency. The decision on granting reasonable accommodation will be on a case-by-case basis.
09-29-2003, 12:43 #7
Jameski, I understand that USSS is under DHS, but my point is there are SEVERAL OTHER agencies under DHS. For example the vac announcement below is for ICE, yet it still says DHS. Therefore saying DHS S/A falls strictly under USSS is not accurate. That announcement that you skillfully cut and pasted was for USSS S/A just like the one below is for ICE S/A.
Agency Name: Dept. of Homeland Security
Vacancy Announcement Number: 2003-DHS-ADS-38-DE001
Apply Online: Click Here
to Apply to This Vacancy
Opening Date: 09/17/2003
Closing Date: 10/01/2003
Area of Consideration: US citizens - This position is open to all
applicants with or without competitive status.
Position Title, Series, Grade: Criminal Investigator (Special Assistant),
Promotion Potential: 14
Salary: $81,602.00 - $106,086.00 Annual
Duty Location(s): WASHINGTON, DC
Work Schedule: Full Time
Time Limit: Permanent - No time limit
Notes: DUTY LOCATION: Department of Homeland Security, Bureau of
Immigration and Customs Service, Office of the Assistant Secretary,
Operations Branch, Washington, DC.
09-29-2003, 13:00 #8
Bosco is right - it's a position with USSS, not DHS. Semantic difference maybe, but different just the same. That's like calling an FBI Special Agent a "DOJ Special Agent" - technically true? Maybe, but it's a big strech (and would be confused with a lot of other positions, like a DOJ-OIG, SA for example). Not true in practice.
09-29-2003, 13:32 #9jameski Guest
Ok, got it.. sorry for the confusion.
09-30-2003, 07:42 #10ghostrider Guest
To ask which S/A position is more challenging than other is an inherently flawed question. Not just between the FBI and DHS, but to all SA positions.
Each and every SA position has its own unique challenges and intrigue.
I am not going to get into shattering the myth about the FBI here, but lets just say, some agencies have more intrigue on the inside than others.