Thread: Hud-oig

I was curious if there were any HUD OIG onboard? If so I have some questions for them. I spoke with two HUD-OIG SA this week. Both were prior BPA that got hired with HUD in 2005. Neither of them had to attend CITP because the agency accepted their BP training. One was glad, as he had no desire to attend CITP, and the other admitted that he wished he would have attended CITP as he feels it has hampered him a little as his learning curve was off.

The one that wanted CITP stated the agency denied it, had him EOD, qual and start work. Is this still the policy of HUD? He said it didn't affect his promotion to a 13 though as that was automatic.

thanks for your response. Feel free to PM, if you prefer.

I went through CITP with a HUD agent who was with the protection division for the secretary. She said that CITP was her advanced training and that she was going to be able to promote to a 14 because of it. Now maybe that's only for protection but I thought that was interesting.

Originally Posted by thisguyjc24

I went through CITP with a HUD agent who was with the protection division for the secretary. She said that CITP was her advanced training and that she was going to be able to promote to a 14 because of it. Now maybe that's only for protection but I thought that was interesting.

The protection detail agents at HUD are not part of the OIG, they fall under a separate security office. They are also not 1811s, they are 0080 Security Specialists.

Originally Posted by nsedet

The protection detail agents at HUD are not part of the OIG, they fall under a separate security office. They are also not 1811s, they are 0080 Security Specialists.

Interesting. I didn't know that. Do they still get LEAP or AUO?

Originally Posted by thisguyjc24

Interesting. I didn't know that. Do they still get LEAP or AUO?

No LEAP or AUO, extra hours worked are OT. They are 6c covered. Most 0080 detail agents I have met at HUD and elsewhere cap out on OT each year.

As NSEDET pointed out, many cabinet level protection details used to be staffed with OIG Agents. Several years ago, one of the larger OIG's began to look at the same idea and their legal staff quickly made a determination (a correct one, in my layman's opinion) that protection duties were not covered by the IG Act. In response, most of the IG details went away and were converted to full-time protection units staffed by 0080's. A couple of them are quite large and incorporate protective intelligence investigative duties as well.
Gonzo

I would be a little upset if HUD didn't send me to CITP. Without that certificate, I think it may be difficult to lateral to another agency that may not be so willing to accept BPA training in lieu of CITP. Maybe it is a way to make sure agents don't leave for greener grass?

Originally Posted by spb10059

I would be a little upset if HUD didn't send me to CITP. Without that certificate, I think it may be difficult to lateral to another agency that may not be so willing to accept BPA training in lieu of CITP. Maybe it is a way to make sure agents don't leave for greener grass?

Why would you be upset? Because HUD didn't pay to send you to training so you'd be more marketable for other jobs down the road?

Most folks who've come on in more recent years have gone through CITP. And that includes agents from varied backgrounds, some with more investigative experience and training than BPA. The only ones I've known to skip CITP were already 1811's at other agencies.

You're just full of HUD-OIG questions. You post you've been hired by an unknown agency this week. Yet you inquire several times by PM about a pending interview with HUD. I don't really care, but it seems rather odd. I don't know about 2005, but BP folks with CITP would have to attend FLETC now. We were doing interviews/hiring last week, and that's the answer.

If this is a COC violation, I apologize, and feel free to remove it.

I did accept an offer with an OIG, and do have an interview with another next week HUD. HUD vacancy was at a higher grade, so if offered I might want to withdraw my acceptance from the first OIG. I'm just trying to get as much information to make the best decision for my family. So IF HUD does call with an offer I will know if I want withdraw my first acceptance.

Some might not think it wise to accept a later offer with a different agency, but I wasn't going to decline a bird in hand for a potential a maybe. Sorry if you were angered by inquiry or logic.

bush,

Last time I looked this was a forum to help those with questions. Not sure why it bunches some panties with your inquiries into HUD. I can't see anything wrong with taking what's offered to you now and following up on something better that may come along. Haven't seen anything in law saying you can't do it. In fact I think some, probably many, on here have jumped ship from one agency to another because it was a better fit for them for some reason or another.

Best of luck.