Thread: Working Supervisors

Just curious...

What 1811 shops, if any, have first-line supervisors that carry a caseload of some type? Not looking for whether this is good or bad practice, just if anyone does.

I now a few NPS SSAs that carry a reduced caseload, and even a regional SAC that has a few cases.

FBI SSAs occassionally went out on surveillance, arrests, etc., but did not carry a caseload.

Some FWS RAC's work cases, but it's totally up to them. One guy I know makes a ton of really good cases while suprvising agents over 3 states. That's a lot of work.

Most of the RAC's (or ASAC's) I've known in different agencies could go out on warrants and such if they felt like it (because there's nothing better than going on someone else's warrant AND not having a job assignment ).

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Better to sign a report than write one...

Interesting about FWS - I think FBI policy actually forbids SSAs from being the assigned case agent in the supermodern and efficient Automated Case Support (ACS) system.

I always thought that if the squad was doing something as a group, the SSA needed to be out there - especially after I found myself in the middle of a bomb scare during one of my warrants and no boss around to deal with the local city chief who showed up, asking lots of questions and mad as hell.

After that, he came out more, and a week after that had to help me fight a guy who tried to run...and he was in his suit. He was our office's only SSA with a documented UOF that year.

I know one DOL SSA who carries a reduced caseload.

My SSA over at IRS will go out on surveillance, SW, arrests etc but doesn't carry any cases.

Originally Posted by JRG

My SSA over at IRS will go out on surveillance, SW, arrests etc but doesn't carry any cases.

Same here with my ASAC.

I know a few agents classified as RACs who carry cases, but most of those are "in charge" of a one or two agent offices. CGIS and DCIS are two examples that come to mind.

especially after I found myself in the middle of a bomb scare during one of my warrants

After that, he came out more

Uh...I'll bet he did .

Don't know if its the norm but my supervisor (USMS) carries a full work load.

ICE supervisors do not carry cases. The move over the past five years has been to require a supervisor at every forseeable enforcement action (search warrants, arrests etc) which may be wise or unwise, depending on the supervisor. Lots more use of ops plans, SRT reviews etc. The agency wants to minimize liability if something goes wrong. That means more, not less, micromanaging as time goes on.

My old supervisor would listen to the brief and then ask me "Where do you need me?" I never presumed to write him into the plan, even though he always asked that...

Other boss never showed up, and yelled at us for breaking too many things during warrants.

I had a sup. once who begged to get away from his desk so he could carry the shotgun on my warrants. He was the best.

Originally Posted by Stanimal

I had a sup. once who begged to get away from his desk so he could carry the shotgun on my warrants. He was the best.

Gee, I'll bet I know which one that was.

The team leaders I know of for the USPIS would at least help out on cases, such as interviews and surveillance. Don't believe they had cases assigned, but seems like they pitch in when needed.

I believe 14's at USPIS can carry a case load. I think it depends more on which team you are assigned to though. I know of several that do, but obviously not as many cases as the 13's because of the 14's additional administrative duties.