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    Alert on Impact of New York's New Gun Law

    The following message was sent out by the Association of Former Agents of the USSS, (AFAUSSS).

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    This alert is to advise members of the Fraternal Order of Police that recent changes to firearms laws in New York may impact active and retired officers visiting the State and carrying concealed firearms under the auspices of the Law Enforcement Officers' Safety Act, (LEOSA).

    New York State law prohibits the possession of magazines holding more than seven (7) rounds. The exemption provided by the LEOSA from State and local prohibitions on the carriage of concealed firearms does NOT exempt active and retired officers from State or Local Laws regulating magazines. It is unlawful for out-of-State active or retired law enforcement officers to possess a magazine which is capable of holding more than seven (7) rounds in the State of New York and you could face a criminal charge. It is our understanding that the prohibition on magazines went into effect immediately.

    While the National Legislative Office has not done a full legal analysis of the new laws, it is very clear that this provision in the new laws will have an immediate effect on FOP members traveling to or through the State of New York. In addition, retired law enforcement officers living in New York even those who have retired or separated from their agency in good standing in the State of New York—may also be affected by the ban on magazines capable of holding more than seven (7) rounds.

    We urge our members that choose to carry concealed firearms in New York under the auspices of the LEOSA to follow the law and use good judgment. Any questions about the new laws in the State of New York should be directed to the New York State Troopers or Office of the Attorney General of New York.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DelC View Post
    The following message was sent out by the Association of Former Agents of the USSS, (AFAUSSS).

    ______________________________________________

    This alert is to advise members of the Fraternal Order of Police that recent changes to firearms laws in New York may impact active and retired officers visiting the State and carrying concealed firearms under the auspices of the Law Enforcement Officers' Safety Act, (LEOSA).

    New York State law prohibits the possession of magazines holding more than seven (7) rounds. The exemption provided by the LEOSA from State and local prohibitions on the carriage of concealed firearms does NOT exempt active and retired officers from State or Local Laws regulating magazines. It is unlawful for out-of-State active or retired law enforcement officers to possess a magazine which is capable of holding more than seven (7) rounds in the State of New York and you could face a criminal charge. It is our understanding that the prohibition on magazines went into effect immediately.

    While the National Legislative Office has not done a full legal analysis of the new laws, it is very clear that this provision in the new laws will have an immediate effect on FOP members traveling to or through the State of New York. In addition, retired law enforcement officers living in New York even those who have retired or separated from their agency in good standing in the State of New York—may also be affected by the ban on magazines capable of holding more than seven (7) rounds.

    We urge our members that choose to carry concealed firearms in New York under the auspices of the LEOSA to follow the law and use good judgment. Any questions about the new laws in the State of New York should be directed to the New York State Troopers or Office of the Attorney General of New York.

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    First: Thanks for posting this, as it's critical info and can potentially keep a "good guy" out of the hot seat.

    Second: To every FOP or PBA member that voted for left-leaning candidates because they were "pro-Union," despite the candidates' anti-gun stance, or who said nothing while their union sent vast sums to those candidates' campaigns, premised on the belief that "we're SPECIAL and we'll be exempted from any nasty law that might be passed," three words:

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    Incorrect in part. Does not change the fact that this was a rushed and poorly constructed law as most boutique and cutsey named laws are. In any case, this calls for additional modifications to LEOSA that didn't make it thorough last time to exempt mag restrictions and gun free school zones, at a minimum.

    Ten round (or less) mags owned on the date of the law are exempted and can be loaded with seven rounds.

    They still haven't resolved the issue that there are no exemptions for active LE in this well constructed law, so theoretically after everything takes effect everybody on patrol with semi-autos wil be in violation unless they load down.

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    From the official FAQ (with bolded emphasis added):
    Q: How has the law changed for magazines?

    A: Since the federal assault weapons ban in 1994, it has been illegal in New York State to buy, for any gun, a detachable magazine, manufactured after the law took effect, that can contain more than ten rounds. This law does not change that. Starting April 15, 2013, only magazines that contain 7 rounds or less will be sold in New York, including permanently modified magazines.

    Q: What if I have a magazine that can contain more than ten rounds?

    A: You can permanently modify the magazine so that it holds no more than ten rounds, responsibly discard it, or sell it to a dealer or an out of state purchaser by January 15, 2014.

    Q: Can modified magazines be sold by dealers or individuals?

    A: Yes, anyone can sell a modified magazine.

    Q: Going forward, what magazines can I buy?

    A: As of April 15, 2013, only magazines that can contain 7 rounds or less will be sold in New York, including permanently modified magazines.

    Q: How many rounds can I put in my magazine today?

    A: Ten. Starting on April 15, 2013, you are limited to putting in seven rounds, unless you are at an incorporated firing range or competition recognized by the National Rifle Association or International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association, in which case the limit is ten.
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    Additions to be made to gun laws for law enforcement | 7online.com

    NEW YORK (WABC) -- A troubling oversight has been found within New York State's sweeping new gun laws.

    The ban on having high-capacity magazines, as it's written, would also include law enforcement officers.

    Magazines with more than seven rounds will be illegal under the new law when that part takes effect in March.


    As the statute is currently written, it does not exempt law enforcement officers.

    Nearly every law enforcement agency in the state carries hand guns that have a 15 round capacity.

    A spokesman for the governor's office called Eyewitness News to say, "We are still working out some details of the law and the exemption will be included, currently no police officer is in violation."

    The Patrolman's Benevolent Association President released a statement saying, "The PBA is actively working to enact changes to this law that will provide the appropriate exemptions from the law for active and retired law enforcement officers."

    State Senator Eric Adams, a former NYPD Captain, told us he's going to push for an amendment next week to exempt police officers from the high-capacity magazine ban. In his words, "You can't give more ammo to the criminals"
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIU View Post
    State Senator Eric Adams, a former NYPD Captain
    Not exactly beloved by MOS.....................

    The exemptions so far proposed are equally as well thought out as the original law and will NOT exempt ALL retired LEOs.

    The way to do it would have been to exempt all active/retired LE who meet the definitions in LEOSA AND/OR have the retired endorsement on their NYS pistol licenses.
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