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    How far back on a ANY type of drug test can they trace back too

    I am trying to become a police officer(READ MY EAIRLER FORUM "How can I redeem my past mistakes") and I'm in an arguement with a friend at school about how far a test can go back to detect any drugs in your system. I was under the assumption that they can trace pot back to at least 3 years. He says 6 months to a year. Someone else says 7 years. Does anyone know? Thanks for all threads and please feel free to respond to my previous thread. All input is read and actually good threads become topics in my classroom.

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    I believe 3 months for a hair test

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    I've heard some drugs, like cocaine I believe, never leave your system if you do a hair test.

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    You should worry about being honest with your marijuana use and not about the possibility of being caught because you're building an imaginery drug use timeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NBW791
    I've heard some drugs, like cocaine I believe, never leave your system if you do a hair test.
    I heard the same thing about MJ. I don’t remember the source, but it was from some type of scientist or lab person. You may want to do search with Google.
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    The polygraph goes back all the way - just don't use.

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    People, I'm dissapointed (EXCEPT FOR THOSE WHO RESPONDED MATURELY TO THE QUESTION OR TOOK TIME TO ACTUALLY READ IT) AT YOUR RESPONSE. I am not creating an imaginary timeline or trying to cover up what I've done. It's NOT!!!! about me!!! It was just a question that I was asking so I can discuss it my classroom. So for you who did not understand the first time around I say again: How far can a test go back to detect drugs in your system? Not polygraph, Not B.I., Not Interviewed, just a standard either department test or any kind of test (hair,blood,fluid,etc)
    I thought this forum was so we could get respectful answers to questions we have. I'm not asking for an opinion or your idea. I can't go to class and say just don't use it and you won't have to worry about a test. Everyone already knows that. It's just a topic to discuss because nobody knew an answer when it was brought up. So for those of you who do know and respond to this thread respectfully, Thank you and I'm sorry for having to respond back in this way. It is just I'm tired of everyone responding to my question with an answer that has nothing to do with the question. I don't respond to your questions unless I fully understand what you are looking for. I would expect the same in return. If I asked for an opinion on a topic,than feel free to respond to it. As Joe Friday would say, "Just the facts"

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    CB -

    You gotta look at it from our perspective - giving out those dates (for those who know) sort of undoes the tactical value of using them since users would then know how to game their use vs. testing (except for the obvious pop-test).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbrandon
    People, I'm dissapointed (EXCEPT FOR THOSE WHO RESPONDED MATURELY TO THE QUESTION OR TOOK TIME TO ACTUALLY READ IT) AT YOUR RESPONSE. I am not creating an imaginary timeline or trying to cover up what I've done. It's NOT!!!! about me!!! It was just a question that I was asking so I can discuss it my classroom. So for you who did not understand the first time around I say again: How far can a test go back to detect drugs in your system? Not polygraph, Not B.I., Not Interviewed, just a standard either department test or any kind of test (hair,blood,fluid,etc)
    I thought this forum was so we could get respectful answers to questions we have. I'm not asking for an opinion or your idea. I can't go to class and say just don't use it and you won't have to worry about a test. Everyone already knows that. It's just a topic to discuss because nobody knew an answer when it was brought up. So for those of you who do know and respond to this thread respectfully, Thank you and I'm sorry for having to respond back in this way. It is just I'm tired of everyone responding to my question with an answer that has nothing to do with the question. I don't respond to your questions unless I fully understand what you are looking for. I would expect the same in return. If I asked for an opinion on a topic,than feel free to respond to it. As Joe Friday would say, "Just the facts"
    cbradon, first of all you have to understand that this is a website devoted to GETTING HIRED AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER (note: caps means yelling so don't yell unless you feel it neccessary). The name of the website is "911 JOB Forums" You asked a question that many applicants have asked before and got the answers related to drug use prior to LE. If you only wanted to know the half-life of a drug as it goes through your system, you should find a drug test website or science journal to answer that question. Most (I say most) of the people here are not scientist or conduct drug tests on a regular basis. They have second hand info on drug testing but not enough for you to bring back to your class for analysis.

    So please, do not start berating other posters who answered your question just not the way you wanted it.

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    I'm sorry

    I'm sorry for people thinking I was berating.I'm not upset or yelling at anyone. I will except people's "what I heard" or "here's what i know" responses. But this is a forum about Drugs and enforcement and this is a drug related question. I too am trying to get on the force and so i feel the question was a proper one for this forum. I understand people don't know all the answers but I was asking those that did know. But if i get too many wrong responses than it creates a pattern that others will follow. If you know and don't want to reveal, that's perfectly understanding and I respect that. I just want to keep it as close as to the question as possible. I am once again sorry for any misunderstanding. I was just trying to be direct with what I was looking for. In no way did I try to down-talk anyone. Everyone knows though about those responses you get from your questions from people just messing around.I'm just trying to weed them out. There are plenty other forums out there for those responses.

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    I think this is the old I have a friend who is in a situation but it is really him wanting to know the answer to the question and this guy really wants to be an officer and is trying to get some info on how he can cover up his drug usage. If it is only marijuana most places allow it as long as it is only a few times and longer then 3-5 years. I know most places will DQ if you ever used hard drugs. I was told that a hair test can detect any drug you ever used.

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    sorry, Will!
    i have no secrets on what i did. read my post in the police question forum titled Can I redeem my mistakes and you'll find that your accusation about me is wrong. This is exactly what i was talking about in my reply response. Don't accuse if you don't know. But thank you anyway for giving me your answer to my question. A simply sorry from you would be nice. I dont accuse unless I know the facts. Don't worry, i can see you will make a fine cop someday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbrandon
    I dont accuse unless I know the facts. Don't worry, i can see you will make a fine cop someday.
    Actually, Will probably will make (is) a fine cop - having a certain amount of pessimism and following your intuition is usually a good idea. And as you noted, he went ahead and answered your question to his ability, apparently in spite of what his gut told him about your motivations/concerns.

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    Basic info to your question.


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    Basic info to your question

    Sorry about the double post; mistakes happen

    Oh boy alot of side tangents again. CB just my advice, try not to feel too offended with the LEO posts they are probably not trying to be insulting but they are just defensive. Since this info you are a gathering is for your class I would suggest following the advice of reading up on a medical or scientific journal. Anything here is most certainly lay opinion unless quoted word for word. From my readings this is what I have gathered:

    You stated your arguement in class was about pot use.
    MJ is stored in fat cells there for it can be detected in urine for a longer period than any other illicit drug. It does not just go in and out like alchohol in 24 HRS. Dependent on the frequency and amount of use I have READ that a subject can test positive for up to 6 months for MJ metabolites. This is what I have read about a Gas Chromatography Spectra Analysis.

    Hair follicle tests are different they can detect further back. A standard HF covers 90 days BUT is susceptible to time variation depending on the growth rate of the subject's hair. The hair sample is cut as close to the scalp as possible and the most recent 1.5 IN are tested. It is possible to go back even further than 90 days since the time period is limited only by the length of the hair samples, (toxicities are stored primarily in the shaft not the root). This is probably why the former casino owner and active heroin addict Ted Binion shaved his entire body prior to his tests by the gaming commission. But the test is standarized to a 90 day history. Coke, MJ, Opiates, Meth/Amp, MDMA, and PCP can all be detected by HF. LSD and psilocybin can not be detected by HF but only by a spinal tap. Dont worry they wont go that far!

    Dont know saliva, wont even guess.
    Blood tests dont know either. I wont BS you with a made up answer.

    CB, there is no definitve answer: everyone is different. Consult with a medical or science journal or even try getting an interview with a toxicologist (that preparation would really impress your teacher and classmates). Best of luck with your studies!

    Scrapy


 
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