FBI SA Applicant Thread 11/2/09

[7mary4]

Welcome back. Time for the Weekly FBI SA Applicant Status update


S/A Applicant Status Update 02 Nov 2009


**Good luck to all those who have Phase I and Phase II testing coming up in the next few weeks, we’re all pulling for you**



Welcome Natasha to the boards, who is waiting on “the call”


Welcome cjr801 to the boards who is in the BI stage


Applicant - Status (Phase II date)


Should be agents now

Daniel1985<-------------------------------April NAT Class (Dec ’08)
PAgirl<------------------------------------April NAT Class (Nov ’08)
ferris<------------------------------------April NAT Class (Sep '08)
Hopeful1811Gu<--------------------------April NAT Class (June ’08)
Rawninja<--------------------------------April NAT Class (Dec ‘08)
15Bluewater<-----------------------------April NAT Class (Dec ’08)
Scout56<---------------------------------April NAT Class (Dec ’08)
atlas7476<--------------------------------April NAT Class (???)

At Quantico

Colt08<------------------------------------May NAT Class (Nov 08)
Hurry&Wait<-------------------------------June NAT Class (??)
RazorUTe<-------------------------------- June NAT Class (Jan 09)
SA in Waiting<---------------------------- July NAT Class (Jan ‘09)
Runner17 <------------------------------- Aug NAT Class (Mar 09)
efbeeye<--------------------------------- Sept NAT Class (May 09)
Jayhawk1811<--------------------------- Sept NAT Class (June 09)
jsb5391<--------------------------------- Sept NAT Class (Apr 09)
IrishGrunt<------------------------------- Oct NAT Class (Apr 09)
Micheng<--------------------------------- Oct NAT Class (May 09)
Aztecs15<-------------------------------- Oct NAT Class (May 09)
Toroweaper <---------------------------- Oct NAT Class (May 09)


Got the Call

Domino00<------------------------------ Dec NAT Class (March 09)
ASA018<-------------------------------- Dec NAT Class (Feb 09)


On Deck
gman618 – waiting on "the call" (Mar '05)
Jeffcopopo - waiting on "the call" (Apr '07)
TexasFan - waiting on "the call" (Nov '07)
groovepark - waiting on "the call" (Oct '07)
BobLeeSwagger! - waiting on "the call” (Nov '07)
Big_Foot- waiting on "the call” (Apr 09)
*Natsha- waiting on “the call” (Apr ’09)


Adjudication
echo - (Jul '07)
Ninja750 (Apr 09)


Poly/Med/BI
PTDawg – passed PFT (Oct '06)
MissingLink – BI in progress (Jan '07)
JPR - BI/Med wrapping up (Aug '06)
TheBiologian - BI in progress (Jun '07)
Epigabus - (Jun '07)
cjgoregon1 - (Jun '07)
Vacillatorn - BI in progress (May '07)
TeamSheepdog - BI in progress (Jul '07)
Bosoxrsm - (Feb '08)
explorer3253 - PSI/Poly complete (Feb '08)
NyMLFed - BI in progress (Feb '08)
KBozz007 - BI in progress (Mar '08)
oneshotaj - BI in progress (Dec '07)
melissa99 – Completed Med/ Poly/PSI/ BI ongoing(Oct '08)
FBI-Chombo- PFT/Med/PSI/poly BI initiated (Dec ’08)
mrxnor - (May '08)
losttraveler - (Jul '08)
ELCID02 - (Sep '08)
chippie - (Oct '08)
CLEMTMEMBERTOBE-Passed PFT (Jan ’09)
Zak-Passed Phase II
RedBirdFan-Passed Phase II
ReadyToRun- Passed PII, PFT upcoming (Apr ‘09)
Uncle_Pete-Passed Phase II (Mar '09)
tdt-PSI/Poly/BI ongoing (Feb 09)
Gatordep5758- Passed Phase II (May 09)
Mlcheng-Passed Phase II (May 09)
Kimber29- Reactivated (Sept 05)
DetroitPros-Passed PFT (??)
Acer416- PFT/PSI/Med (July 09)
Sleddog-PFT/Med?BI initiated (March 09)
00Lucky-Phase II/PFT (July 09)
MIPS4000-Passed Phase II (Aug 09)
punisher6- Passed Phase II (Apr 09)
manyquestions- PFT/ poly/ medical/ BI initiated (Sept 09)
MS1-Passed Phase II (Sept 09)

PFT retest
Sly Mink – PFT retest (Feb '07)
Gators#1 - PFT retest (Mar '07)
Sawannabe - PFT retest (Apr '07)
Will4077 - PFT retest (Aug '07)
Uncle_Pete-PFT retest (Mar '09)
Kpddet35- Poly/Med-PFT retest (June 09)
7mary4- Poly/Med/PSI ; BI ongoing--PFT retest (Sept 09)
flatline- Poly/Med/PSI complete--PFT retest (Aug 09)


* = New to the list

Note: FYI, we are only tracking post Phase II candidates on this list to keep the administration down. Sorry to all that have PM'd me that are not to that stage yet, I'll be glad to add you after you pass Phase II. Nothing personal. Also, I do not add anyone to this list unless they ask to be added. If you think your name should be here and it is not, send me a PM.

[Natasha]

What's the rumor about 5-6 classes in January/February? First time I hear about it.

[7mary4]

Originally Posted by Natasha

What's the rumor about 5-6 classes in January/February? First time I hear about it.

Some of us, me included, have heard from our AC's that there is 2 or 3 classes in Jan and Feb in the schedule.

When I passed Phase II in Sept, I was told I was on track for a Feb NAC class.

[deliboy007]

I will preface with "I know there is no way to expect anything in this process", but it seems that from the timelines I have seen the most standard turnaround between Phase II and NAT is about five months. Does this jive with the intel that some of you veterans are receiving? I just got my Phase II invite and the possibility of becoming an agent is starting to seem more real.

[jazbaSA]

Originally Posted by 7mary4

I'm just kidding of course, just trying to break the monotony of the thread. Hopefully the intel we've been getting about 5-6 classes in Jan/Feb will start clearing out our "aged" but wise members

and make room us n00bs

does anyone know if there is common wait time between p1/results and getting a pII date or has it been all over?

[flatline]

Originally Posted by deliboy007

I will preface with "I know there is no way to expect anything in this process", but it seems that from the timelines I have seen the most standard turnaround between Phase II and NAT is about five months. Does this jive with the intel that some of you veterans are receiving? I just got my Phase II invite and the possibility of becoming an agent is starting to seem more real.

deliboy: I think the 'standard' answer is yeah, roughly 5-6 months between passing Phase II and getting "the Call". However, understand that 5-6 months is basically the fastest you will be processed. I haven't heard of anyone going through this process in less than 10 months or so total, and that was blazingly fast. Once you pass Phase II, there are any number of hang ups that can slow you down - medical followups, PFT retests, hard to find or uncooperative employers in your Background...

jazba: Easy answer is that it's all over. A lot of it depends on when your region's next P2 event is, if it's already full, etc. I got the letter telling me I passed Phase I in like the end of April this year. It was mid-June before I got an invitation to take Phase II in August.

[jazbaSA]

haha btw 7mary, i just noticed the name of this thread...

FBI SA Application Threat

so true in so many ways...

[manyquestions]

Originally Posted by 7mary4

Some of us, me included, have heard from our AC's that there is 2 or 3 classes in Jan and Feb in the schedule.

When I passed Phase II in Sept, I was told I was on track for a Feb NAC class.

My AC said the same to me. Passed PII in Sept, expect NAC in Feb.

[7mary4]

Originally Posted by jazbaSA

haha btw 7mary, i just noticed the name of this thread...

FBI SA Application Threat

so true in so many ways...

My weekly update was actually one of the last posts in the prior thread, it was moved to start this thread.

Must have been the ghost of Dr. Freud playing tricks on us.

[7mary4]

Originally Posted by jazbaSA

and make room us n00bs
does anyone know if there is common wait time between p1/results and getting a pII date or has it been all over?

It really all depends on your qualifications.

Irish Grunt, who recently entered the academy, probably put it best a few months ago.

I couldn't find the post so I will paraphrase what I remember. When you pass Phase I, you are looked at as to your competitiveness on a national scale. If your AC thinks you’re competitive right away, then they will submit your name, if not, then you won't hear anything. You could stay in this "limbo" of not competitive enough (yet), forever. If you read through the many FBI threads you can see the backgrounds those that got the call possessed. It's pretty impressive, but that is the caliber of the applicant you’re up against.

Just remember, your Phase II request (sent in by your AC, who nominates you) is sent to FBI HQ and someone at HQ takes all the apps from all over the country and picks the most competitive from across the U.S. Your AC has a good idea what level of competitiveness you need to get a slot, but it's the ultimate decision at HQ that will decide it.

If you’re not competitive right after Phase I, you will sit in limbo until your AC thinks your competitive enough for a Phase II slot. At certain times that may require you to do nothing (probably not in this day and time), and sitting around doing nothing but hoping is not what most applicants are made of anyway.

You can find ways to improve your resume, graduate degree, become completely fluent in a new language (a tough task and a thread all by itself), a new certification maybe, a new/second job with more professional experience, military service, etc, etc, etc. The problem with this is that you will never know what will trigger your ACs interest in you as a Phase II applicant. If your going to undertake something to "pad" your resume, pick something that you would enjoy doing even if you weren't going after the FBI. For example; going to law school because you heard the FBI needs more lawyers, even though you hate the idea of being a lawyer or going to law school. Your miserable for 3-4 years only to find out that the FBI needs CPA's more than lawyers. So pick something you have a passion for, there are dozens of ways to make yourself look better, so find one you can use even if the FBI never calls back.

My advice would be to have a conversation with your AC after you pass Phase I about your competitiveness, and if you’re not competitive, find out what s/he thinks would make you competitive. The term "competitive" is a fluid term that could change at any moment. Last year when the FBI announced its big hiring push the competitiveness went up, so in the future it will probably have to come down. That’s why I said earlier that you could conceivably do nothing and still be competitive down the road. The level of competitiveness could come back to you, and out of nowhere you get a phase II invite some day.

Sorry this post was so long but there isn’t a short answer.

[ASA018]

Originally Posted by Natasha

What's the rumor about 5-6 classes in January/February? First time I hear about it.

I don't know anything specific about class dates or the number of classes in coming months, though another poster on another board just announced today that he received a call for a January NAT class. I've got my fingers crossed for all of you waiting on the call that you receive a similar call this week.

[kpddet35]

I just wanted to pass the good news to everyone. I received THE CALL for the January 3rd NAT class, on the condition that I pass my final shot at the PFT on December 3rd.

[flatline]

Originally Posted by kpddet35

I just wanted to pass the good news to everyone. I received THE CALL for the January 3rd NAT class, on the condition that I pass my final shot at the PFT on December 3rd.

Congratulations, that is like the world's best Christmas/Chanukkah/Ramadan present ever. Plenty of notice, you get to spend the holidays with your family, and a nice literal goal to work towards in your training. I salute you.

[mx1111]

Originally Posted by 7mary4

It really all depends on your qualifications.

Irish Grunt, who recently entered the academy, probably put it best a few months ago.

I couldn't find the post so I will paraphrase what I remember. When you pass Phase I, you are looked at as to your competitiveness on a national scale. If your AC thinks you’re competitive right away, then they will submit your name, if not, then you won't hear anything. You could stay in this "limbo" of not competitive enough (yet), forever. If you read through the many FBI threads you can see the backgrounds those that got the call possessed. It's pretty impressive, but that is the caliber of the applicant you’re up against.

Just remember, your Phase II request (sent in by your AC, who nominates you) is sent to FBI HQ and someone at HQ takes all the apps from all over the country and picks the most competitive from across the U.S. Your AC has a good idea what level of competitiveness you need to get a slot, but it's the ultimate decision at HQ that will decide it.

If you’re not competitive right after Phase I, you will sit in limbo until your AC thinks your competitive enough for a Phase II slot. At certain times that may require you to do nothing (probably not in this day and time), and sitting around doing nothing but hoping is not what most applicants are made of anyway.

You can find ways to improve your resume, graduate degree, become completely fluent in a new language (a tough task and a thread all by itself), a new certification maybe, a new/second job with more professional experience, military service, etc, etc, etc. The problem with this is that you will never know what will trigger your ACs interest in you as a Phase II applicant. If your going to undertake something to "pad" your resume, pick something that you would enjoy doing even if you weren't going after the FBI. For example; going to law school because you heard the FBI needs more lawyers, even though you hate the idea of being a lawyer or going to law school. Your miserable for 3-4 years only to find out that the FBI needs CPA's more than lawyers. So pick something you have a passion for, there are dozens of ways to make yourself look better, so find one you can use even if the FBI never calls back.

My advice would be to have a conversation with your AC after you pass Phase I about your competitiveness, and if you’re not competitive, find out what s/he thinks would make you competitive. The term "competitive" is a fluid term that could change at any moment. Last year when the FBI announced its big hiring push the competitiveness went up, so in the future it will probably have to come down. That’s why I said earlier that you could conceivably do nothing and still be competitive down the road. The level of competitiveness could come back to you, and out of nowhere you get a phase II invite some day.

Sorry this post was so long but there isn’t a short answer.

Thanks for that.

[jazbaSA]

7mary, great info! thanks!

Originally Posted by kpddet35

I just wanted to pass the good news to everyone. I received THE CALL for the January 3rd NAT class, on the condition that I pass my final shot at the PFT on December 3rd.

Congrats! that really is perfect timing/notice. are you close to passing the pft?