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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taurus1 View Post
    Sorry, I meant for an FBI IA applicant. My poly was done in July 2006.
    I had to do just that to update my file and I also had to re-do drug test, and fingerprinting, that is what I was told when I was called just to make sure everything is up to date.

    If say one does not get the job this time around and there is a re-post for IA positions, you will definitely have to re-do the whole nine yards includling the poly, and I am serious about this because I have been there myself.
    Last edited by Deb; 11-14-2007 at 19:19.
    Peace and Good Luck to All

  2. #17
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    A couple of months ago I called and asked one of the HR people at HQ if I would have to retake my poly and drug test if I applied for another position. She said no. The only case I would have to retake was if it had been over a year since I had my original poly and drug test done. So I guess that confirms that polys and drug tests expire after x amount of time.

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    Thought I'd drop in with what little info I have. I applied for an IA position in May '04. In early 2005 I was called about a job in DC... while I wanted to go it didn't work out for my family since my husband was working in Des Moines with another federal agency and it would have been all but impossible to get him transferred.

    Fast forward to April '06 and we moved to Kansas City. At that time I reactivated my application with the local field office. In the summer of '06 I had an interview, another drug test, another polygraph, and they reinitiated my BI (redid the whole thing since they called my references from several years earlier all over again- sounds like a waste of cash). I've pretty much been in a holding pattern ever since.

    Most recently, I called the group sup at the local office in late September (he had told me to call right before fiscal year start). He advised that he didn't have any current positions and didn't know if or how many spots they'd get for 08. He seemed to think he'd know some more in mid-October. Here is is mid-Nov and I haven't heard anything.

    I don't think each office will know how many they can hire until an actual budget is passed (I'm guessing that will happen around the first of the year), then the final numbers have to filter down to all the offices. I've heard from an HR person in prior years to not expect much action before April. So I'm still waiting... 3 years and counting.

    As for re-doing steps... I've been told to expect to redo the poly and drug test if it's been over 2 years since the last ones. And they will always "catch-up" your BI if it's been awhile since the last one was completed.

    In the mean time I hate my current job but don't want to get labeled a "job hopper" since I've been here less than a year. I'm hoping my next jump will be the bureau.

  4. #19
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    Are there any FBI IA's out there who work at HQ (or in an FO)that can describe their experience with the Bureau and how the role of IA's are continuing to evolve, especially with the latest talk about giving IA's more responsibility and authority within the Bureau. If that info cannot be posted, can someone pm me? Your responses would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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    Has anyone heard any updates as of yet? My take is that they discontinued further hiring of IA's due to the budget issues, any ideas out there, anyone? I am waiting patiently this is my life, dreams and my future we are talking about, there is nothing in life I want more than to work for the FBI.
    Peace and Good Luck to All

  6. #21
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    Found this on the FBI site:

    UPDATED INFORMATION FOR APPLICANTS (updated 11/27/2007)


    Thank you for your interest in the Intelligence Analyst position. The FBI is currently recruiting for the Intelligence Analyst position at select universities and will continue in the Spring. The FBI is reviewing the resumes of the students who applied for the Fall posting that closed in November, and will follow up with candidates over the coming months. Please check with your college career center to determine if the FBI is recruiting for the Intelligence Analyst position at your school this Spring.

    For online applicants, all 2006 interviews have been conducted. If you applied online and have not been contacted, then you were not selected for an interview. If there have been substantial changes in your education or work experience since you application, we encourage you to reapply if a posting is open.


    I didn't realize there was a big posting this past November for IA's, only for Investigation Specialist and Surveillence Specialist. And does this mean that those of us who have already interviewed and completed the "whole 9 yards" will take a back seat to college students that are just now applying? I hope not. Any thoughts or further info?

  7. #22
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    Does anyone know what will happen if after you are given a final offer, but due to personal circumstances you are unable to accept at that particular time, will the FBI still keep you on file or is that your only chance? ATF SAC, you seem to have quite a bit of knowledge concerning these types of questions. Your input would be greatly appreciated.

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    Are Relocation costs reimbursed by the bureau?

    If a person has to relocate from one state to another after getting the final job offer with the FBI, do they pay for the relocation costs, such as moving a vehicle to whichever state one is to move to for the IA position? Does anyone know that recently got hired with the bureau? Thanks !
    Peace and Good Luck to All

  9. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deb View Post
    If a person has to relocate from one state to another after getting the final job offer with the FBI, do they pay for the relocation costs, such as moving a vehicle to whichever state one is to move to for the IA position? Does anyone know that recently got hired with the bureau? Thanks !
    The relocation cost is covered by the Bureau if it is in the best interest of the government for you to work there.

  10. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deb View Post
    If a person has to relocate from one state to another after getting the final job offer with the FBI, do they pay for the relocation costs, such as moving a vehicle to whichever state one is to move to for the IA position? Does anyone know that recently got hired with the bureau? Thanks !
    It depends on what the job announcement you applied for says. The announcement I applied for, HQ-2006-0033, stated that they would pay for relocation costs. However, note the second sentence:

    Relocation Expenses will be borne by the FBI. The number of
    relocations may be limited at this time.

  11. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by epsilon View Post
    Does anyone know what will happen if after you are given a final offer, but due to personal circumstances you are unable to accept at that particular time, will the FBI still keep you on file or is that your only chance? ATF SAC, you seem to have quite a bit of knowledge concerning these types of questions. Your input would be greatly appreciated.
    talk to your POC or somebody from the FBI HR staffing

  12. #27
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    There was no money put aside in the 2007 budget for IAs and there was a bureau-wide hiring freeze.

    IAs are a priority however, and individual divisions and FOs got authorized to hire. There's something called unfunded staffing levels--basically, that's when you have a position authorized but no money for it; so it's worthless.

    Last spring our FO got funding for 7 more IA positions; other divisions and a few other FOs did as well. So there was the spring announcement (which I was on TDY and MISSED!). The announcement closed after two weeks, and all hiringings from the next year MUST come off that list.

    We only got two decent candidates off that list, they have been hired and started work within the last week or so. They were both from outside the intelligence community--one from the social security administration and one from a college.

    Since that announcement we have had one IA fired, one IA resign, one scheduled to go to agent school and one scheduled to retire. So we now have 9 IA vacancies.

    My understanding is that there will be another canvassing announcement next spring.

    If you have an COE and the background is done, you probably are slated for an unfunded position and they are waiting to see what will be in the 2008 budget or waiting for an exemption from the hiring freeze. Those who have a COE and a funded slot but haven't heard anything are probably still in background.

    This is my understanding coming from our HR person and from a recent conversation I had with our admin officer.

    But it's different for each division or field office, depending on how many vacancies they have, and how many of those have current funding and who is in the BG pipeline.

    It's also my understanding that a polygraph is good for 2 years but they can decide individually to re poly you; when you enter on duty your first day our FO will take a urine sample and re-fingerprint you.

    Hope this helps.

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    Also--the two new IAs we got recently were unable to go to Cadre/Quantico/whatever-they-are-calling-it-now training in January because the classes were filled up, so somebody's getting hired and brought on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epsilon View Post
    It depends on what the job announcement you applied for says. The announcement I applied for, HQ-2006-0033, stated that they would pay for relocation costs. However, note the second sentence:

    Relocation Expenses will be borne by the FBI. The number of
    relocations may be limited at this time.
    My announcement is the same as your HQ 2006-0033. I don't have a contact person since I am not going to my local FO as I was told by my local FO, they said I was going to HQ so they could not answer anything there, its out of their hands, they only deal with their local FO candidates hired on.

    If anyone has any idea please advise!

    Thanks!
    Peace and Good Luck to All

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    What is the reasoning for:

    Since that announcement we have had one IA fired, one IA resign, one scheduled to go to agent school and one scheduled to retire. So we now have 9 IA vacancies.

    Is the job that hard or what? What is going on? One fired, one resigned, one going to SA classes, is there something wrong, retiring I can see.

    I will volunteer myself for one of the 9 IA vacancies, I am willing to go anywhere.

    I am ready for hire as I have been told by HQ, and I did my PSI, drug test and fingerprint update, and don't know what is next, probably another long wait until they update my background, hopefully I don't have to go through another full fledge background investigation. My patience is wearing thin.

    Keep the faith people, I know I am trying to do my best.
    Peace and Good Luck to All


 

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