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  1. #1
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    Cyber Investigators

    Those of you who are/were assigned to a cyber unit in a law enforcement capacity, what was your experience like? What do you like about it? What do you dislike about it?

    I'm an aspiring 1811 with a background in IT, and the investigative areas of child exploitation have always interested me. If anyone has any specific experience in that type of work, I'd be interested in hearing about your experiences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrsta View Post
    Those of you who are/were assigned to a cyber unit in a law enforcement capacity, what was your experience like? What do you like about it? What do you dislike about it?
    I asked a cyber agent that once and his response was, "1011010001001110100101100110."

    Quote Originally Posted by Corrsta View Post
    I'm an aspiring 1811 with a background in IT, and the investigative areas of child exploitation have always interested me. If anyone has any specific experience in that type of work, I'd be interested in hearing about your experiences.
    Now this I can speak to from some experience. I worked as an 1811 in a unit that investigated CP/exploitation cases for about 2 years, and it's got very strong good and bad aspects to it IMHO. The good is you are working to help *real* victims (not just some petty drug dealer that got robbed, or a victim that had some role of their own in their victimization). And you're helping victims that truly need to be helped. That said, you see the absolute darkest things that human beings are capable of, and if you don't believe in evil you will if you work these types of cases, and it WILL change you. You can't work a CP case without reviewing CP material, and if you can't handling seeing that happen to an innocent child it's not the work for you (and that's not a bad thing, as it's not work everyone is capable of doing). You also have to be able to talk to the suspect as if he's not a monster, which not everyone can do either.

    I still occasionally from time to time have flashbacks to things I saw during those cases. I cope with it and it doesn't impare me, but it's not a job I could do for 20 years, and once you "ring the bell" of viewing that sort of stuff you can't unring the bell.
    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke

    "Society prepares the crime; the criminal commits it." -Chinese proverb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    once you "ring the bell" of viewing that sort of stuff you can't unring the bell.
    As BIG's nightmares continually remind him.
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    Hello, I am new to the forum so I apologize if any of my questions or comments seem misplaced, but seeing as this is a cyber investigation thread I thought this would be a good place to ask my questions.
    I am currently studying criminal justice at my local university and I am interested in learning more about cyber crime investigation. many of my questions were answered above but I would like to know more in-depth about how cyber crime investigation actually works from someone who has been employed in this area. How does it differ from other types of investigation units? what kind of cases can I expect to be working if I were employed in this field? would this job be specifically geared towards one facet of cyber crime, like (as discussed earlier) child exploitation? or would the job encompass more types of online criminal activity like stolen identities or fraud? Also, how closely do cyber crime investigation units work with social media outlets like Facebook or Twitter when dealing with cases.
    Thank you for your time.

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    Depends on the agency. For FBI, cyber agents no longer investigate crimes against children. It is pretty much all intrusion work, both criminal and national security. The training we receive is top notch and the work is good.

    If you're looking to knock down doors, make arrests and be out in the field alot, you might not care for the cyber work. In 6 years of NS intrusions, I've made 0 arrests and had 0 indictments. Contrast that to the time I spent working crimes against children cases where we were knocking them down at the rate of about 3 per month. Now, I get out a fair amount because of my forensic role as well, but cyber enforcement is not your typical law enforcement role.



    Quote Originally Posted by Corrsta View Post
    Those of you who are/were assigned to a cyber unit in a law enforcement capacity, what was your experience like? What do you like about it? What do you dislike about it?

    I'm an aspiring 1811 with a background in IT, and the investigative areas of child exploitation have always interested me. If anyone has any specific experience in that type of work, I'd be interested in hearing about your experiences.

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    Cyber is one of the major program areas in HSI. I have never worked this area but I have a great respect for those that do. In my AOR the cyber guys and gals primarily work child pornography cases. These cases can be identifying and arresting people with child pornography on their computers or identifying and rescuing child victims. In our AOR we actually prefer to take these cases through the state court system, they are much better at prosecuting these types of cases.

    The other part of cyber is other crimes that occur through the internet. IE criminal individuals, organizations or nations stealing intellectual property rights (IE trade secrets, unreleased movies etc). This program area can also involve identify theft.


 

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